Hypothetical Discussion: Would Boxing Be Better Without Belts?

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Its often when so called new eras start where I have had doubts and also we all know the Jones/Michalczewski debates
     
  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    To follow on from that, if you look at say D Wilders first 21 fights, it was not even close to that sort of level and I expect he would be far fresher at 21 fights than Chisora would have been. In 35 fights now, I dont feel Wilder has fought anyone of the level of Fury, Haye, Vitali, Helenius, yet Wilder is a world champ.
    I think the expectations are probably a bit higher on the European scene
     
  3. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    It would be better for the fans to not have the confusion with at least 4 recognized belts. It is annoying.

    Boxing has always had at least 2 recognized titles since the 1920s, but it didn't really get crazy with all the alphabet titles until the 80s and 90s.

    I do think the higher number of titles has helped fighters, mainly the high-risk/low-reward ones. With all the titles out there, they're bound to win one. And then they use it as a marketing tool.

    Shane Mosley lost to high-risk/low-reward fighters in Vernon Forrest and Winky Wright. They were unification bouts at 147 and 154. I don't think HBO puts up that money to make those fights if they weren't unification bouts.
     
  4. guncho

    guncho next champion! Full Member

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    best would be if they made tournament every 1 or 2 years starting from last 32 or last 16.

    they would need to fight every 4 months!

    others compete to get inside top 32 or top 16 with last tournaments losers eliminated!
     
  5. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    ^^This is similar to what I had in mind. I think sheer #s would be problem.
     
  6. FrancescoD

    FrancescoD Active Member Full Member

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    The problem is boxing is about £$£$ Promoters can make the best fights that are not always the best technical fights. The principle is right though and if you go to my website and view the rankings the top 100 is exactly the result of what has happened in each division and the positions of each fighter are based on the man who beat the man. Sadly there are far too many top 20 fighters that just face non top 100 fighters continually and the sanction bodies still allow them to fight for their world titles.
    www.premierboxingorganisation.com
     
  7. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That was a unique, or at least an unusual circumstance. Not the kind of thing that comes up often.

    The thrust remains the same; the lineal title is the product of in-ring events, and is not exclusive to any self-serving alphabet org. Unfortunately, it is also subject, albeit on the periphery, to the politics of the sport.
     
  8. Hullboxinguk

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    Wba wbc should merge....abd ifb wbo merge
     
  9. Hullboxinguk

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    How an earth you make Stevenson real champ .... surely kovalev is the man
     
  10. TonyGrub

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    The only way boxing will reform itself is when it has become such a joke that no one will pay to watch it anymore. Are we seeing evidence of this happening? Maybe. Until then, it will continue to be the circus it is today.
     
  11. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    No.

    OK next thread.
     
  12. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Belts are cool, it's liek our version of a trophy. The belts are not the problem. It's the lack of a unified sanctioning body that is the problem. What is wrong with boxers? Unions have a place for a reason. Why can't boxers get their acts together and create their own union and unified sanctioning body?
     
  13. Super Hans

    Super Hans The Super One™ banned

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    No. The sport would be less global and the biggest fights would be between domestic American hype jobs like Berto and Broner
     
  14. JacK Rauber

    JacK Rauber Unbourboned by what has been Full Member

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    One champ per division. One belt only per division. It would be better for boxing without a doubt. It marginalizes the true champion, by making it appear someone else is his equal. Obviously, the multiple belts are solely to get a piece of the pie. People get a piece of something they have no business claiming. You are either the champ or you aren't. By having only one belt nothing is left to doubt. You want it, come and get it.
     
  15. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Basically, you are asking, "Would boxing be better with no ranking and regulation?" No. It would be anarchy. You wouldn't know who was good and who was bad. There would be no incentive for the best to fight the best since there would be no evidence absent a direct contest that one fighter was better than another. This would lead to more mismatches and more people getting hurt.

    Frankly, it's about as bad an idea as getting rid of weight classes.