Hypothetical fight: Sergio Martinez v Arthur Abraham

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by simmmo, Dec 22, 2009.


  1. simmmo

    simmmo Member Full Member

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    who wins this?

    I'll say that martinez smashes this european pretender
     
  2. HyperBone

    HyperBone Silverback Gorilla Full Member

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    youre an idiot.

    i believe martinez should stick to jmw for a while, because even if he is slick, once he gets hit by abraham, itll be lights out for him. he can only either win by decision (which i doubt tbh) or get iced (which is very possible)
     
  3. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    You don't particularly sound like you know what you're talking about though.

    Do elaborate more about how Martinez, who started at welterweight and comfortably makes light middleweight is going to step up two weight classes and 'smash' Abraham?
     
  4. simmmo

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    he proved against williams that he can fight bigger guys. plus martinez has world class speed. He'll box the crap out of Abraham, and possibly stops him. He won't get iced by arthur, arthur's too slow.
     
  5. thewinfella

    thewinfella The Golden Boy Full Member

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    I beleive that going from his fight with PW he would struggle to take Abraham's power !!!!!!!
     
  6. Hrak

    Hrak Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Abraham by stoppage
     
  7. ramalinga

    ramalinga Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Williams is tall but not a phyically strong tank like Abraham. Williams' best assets are workrate and height, so he is almost the opposite of Abraham.

    There is a commom misconception that Abraham is a crude slugger. He is technically limited, yes, but the typical crude slugger is easy to hit. Abraham is exceedingly difficult to hit clean and almost impossible to hurt. He is also unusually calm and confident in the ring and doesn't need to technically outbox opponents to win a decision. This was a mistake many people made before the Taylor fight. They see Abraham's low output and technical limitations and think he can only win by KO. In reality, Abraham can nullify an opponent's offense with his air tight guard, do nothing for half a round, explode and score the five meaningful punches of the round and win it. His power also tends to make opponents nervours once they taste in in the mid - rounds.

    Abraham would KO Martinez in 6 - 9 rounds.
     
  8. Cobbler

    Cobbler Shoemaker To The Stars Full Member

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    Not sure what you mean by 'bigger guys'? Williams is taller than Martinez. Abraham is shorter.

    Williams v Martinez was two light middleweights fighting, but not bothering to actually cut weight for the weigh in. Martinez weighed in heavier than Williams and is probably naturally the heavier at this stage (definately if we believe Williams that he can still make 147...).

    So Martinez fight proved that he can fight someone taller. Which isn't Abraham. You got anything else? The fact that you think Abraham is slow suggests that you're possibly actually thinking of someone else. Maybe you should go check....
     
  9. simmmo

    simmmo Member Full Member

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    in comparison to martinez he is slow. I think martinez is smart enuf to take this guy
     
  10. itrymariti

    itrymariti CaƱas! Full Member

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    Maybe then he could fight Vitali Klitschko.
     
  11. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'd tend to agree with this. Abraham's power is something I doubt Martinez has tasted before. And although Martinez looked great against PW and Cintron, Abraham is not a guy who gets hit a lot. Yes, Martinez would be faster and elusive, but he would have to throw at Abraham to keep him off of him, which would open him up for Abraham's counters.
     
  12. Doc (aka Meke)

    Doc (aka Meke) Active Member Full Member

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    you really are a kid and haven't seen more than 1 fight by each fighter, isn't it? otherwise i can't explain some of your comments and logic, if there is any.
     
  13. simmmo

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    i don't think abraham been in with a slick boxer who throws heap of very fast combinations and with such pressure.

    Taylore was pretty much damaged goods by the time abraham got there.

    Martinez is on the rise and prolly should have been awarded the fight against williams.
     
  14. des3995

    des3995 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Martinez is a good fighter, but he is not big enough or nearly strong enough to keep AA off of him. And I certainly would not call him a pressure fighter. He is also 34 years old so keep that in mind. He looked gassed vs Williams at the end. Abraham is a strange fighter and looking at how guys prepare for other fighters doesnt do much when it comes to him. To beat him, Martinez would have to stay on the move pretty much from bell to bell.....tag him and get away. He could not slow down. He could not stand and trade like he did with Williams at times. He would be there for counters when he came in and that's where Abraham excels. I don't think the fight would go the distance.
     
  15. HyperBone

    HyperBone Silverback Gorilla Full Member

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    martinez aint smashing abraham. in fact, it is more possible for abraham to kick his ass by brutal knockout.

    abraham is better in all aspects, than say, margarito and you know that maravilla got beat by margo before.