Hypothetical Match Up Game

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by TheBradyHawkes, Nov 14, 2008.


  1. teeto

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    I haven't seen Frankham, you do really come up with the obscure ones SG! When i think Khan i think he's always at danger of being ko'd, Watt's no mega hitter, and Khan is good at countering with flurries. Khan still hasn't done a lot though and i just have to say that Watt uses his experience to rough him up over the stretch. It's a it too early for me to give Khan wins in this forum yet sorry!
     
  2. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Vic Darchinyan Vs. Yoko Gushiken @ Fly. 12 rounds.
     
  3. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I feel that Gushiken had the correct style to expose the inefficiencies of someone like Darchinyan. Vic's unorthodox pressure-punching style would play right into Gushiken's hands. He was a great counter-puncher off the backfoot, and defensively aware enough to fight competently against a loading up telegrapher like Vic. I'll take Gushiken by Decision, if not a late stoppage. He'd probably have a few rough moments, but for the most part I think he was the right kind of fighter to take Vic apart.

    Jorge "Mocho" Lujan vs Enrique Pinder
     
  4. PhillyPhan69

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    Nice match-up! I would lean towards Lujan by a late stopage! I think Pinder's speed would present Lujan with some problems early on, but don't believe that he has the power to really deter Lujan. Lujan struggles early with Pinder's speed, but using his height and reach takes control in the middle rds and stops Pinder late.

    Howard Winstone vs Barry McGuigan
     
  5. WhataRock

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    Winstone is a level above Bazza IMO, for skills and technical ability.

    I think he wins a pretty lopsided points verdict but its a highly competitive one all the way through.

    Ernesto Marcel vs Chris John
     
  6. la-califa

    la-califa Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Although John has fine boxing skills his lack of power costs him against Marcel, as he cannot keep Marcel at bay. Marcel by close decision win.

    Carlos De Leon .Vs. Roy Jones Jr. @ 195 Lbs. 12 Rds.
     
  7. Mr Butt

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    jones speed of foot and hand see him home to a ud in this this one




    ernesto marcel vs barry mcguigan 15 rounds at featherweigh
     
  8. El Bujia

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    Really? Lujan stops Pinder? Could've fooled me. I guess it's about time to get him the hell out of my avatar, then.:lol:

    Anyways, I don't think any Featherweight in recent times is getting clearly the better of Marcel, least of all one of McGuigan's ability. Not ragging on Barry, as I think he often gets the short end of the stick these days due to his underdue Hall of Fame induction, but Marcel was of a different class, in my view. Barry had a nice, technically sound pressure punching kind of style that could see him blast through the lower level and see his way to the elites. However, at any other period (pre-his era, anyway) I don't think he had the kind of tools that would see his way to the top against a variety of elite stylists, particularly one of Marcel's caliber. I like Marcel a lot, but that fact notwithstanding, what does McGuigan offer that Duran and Arguello didn't? Nothing. A walk in the park for Marcel, the way I see it. A crowded one, but a stroll nonetheless. Can't see an upset here.
     
  9. teeto

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    I reckon that style of Darchinyan's is the potential foil for Gushiken personally, i don't see Yoko being outboxed, but that awkward style of aggressive punching that Vic uses could be used well, he's likely better than Pedro Flores i'd reckon. Anyway, i'm nitpicking, as i think Gushiken is just better than him and would **** him up with counters regardless.

    Vic has strength though and to be honest i think it makes it more than interesting.
     
  10. Stevie G

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    Pretty much how I see this one. John Conteh v Freddie Mills and Billy Conn v Dwight Qawi.
     
  11. teeto

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    I've got Conteh over Mills, i reckon he'd be too good, especially as the fight progresses, his skill would tell. He'd be able to match Mills for strength and i reckon that just about clears it up.

    Well i ant to start by saying that i think Conn is one of the best, as in he might beat any 175 man without reservation. But Qawi would be one guy who has a chance purely based on styles. So much pressure, and to hurt Conn might be the only way to get the job done. Conn is durable as **** though and has so much heart so i'm going to pick him to come through his hardest hypthetical mtach-up on points. To be honest though i have no probelm with someone picking Qawi over him.

    Hozumi Hasegawa vs Fernando Montiel, hahaha, let's see your thoughts guys.
     
  12. GPater11093

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    Hasegawa is just the fresher, faster, and more skilled fighter.

    I expect him to use his skills and quicker hands and feet to 'outbox' Montiel for a decision. Sorry for the vague description.

    Did you know if Hozumi wins by KO he will hold the most number of consecutives KO's in world title fights by a Jap?

    Harold Johnson vs Dwight Muhammed Qawi
     
  13. teeto

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    I might be tipping Hasegawa for the stoppage Greg. It's just that the punches in bunches he throws so accurately in mid-ring are so hard to counter. To offset it you'd need more of a boxer who will establish the jab with authority i reckon, not really a boxing type like Montiel. Montiel has became more aggressive but it's still in the pure boxing mould, and i think that kind of approach will see him ship punishment myself.

    Montiel's style is similar to Benny Leonard's don;t you think? And i don;t just mean in the cosmetic sense, i.e how he appears, with the low hands and upright chin out stance, i mean how he likes (well at the lower weights anyway) to maintain distance with footwork and counter with single blows that carry power. Of course Leonard was miles better though.

    Anyway, everybody is in danger fighting Qawi, and Johnson can be hurt, but if Johnson fights the fight of his life he wins on points, i'm taking that. He won;t take no **** off Qawi and mid-ring he owns him.

    Alan Minter vs Kelly Pavlik
     
  14. El Bujia

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    People really like Qawi here, don't they?

    Anyways, I'll take Minter's more versatile approach against Pavlik's plodding one-two style. I see Minter as having the better chin of the two, and he clearly has the power to hurt Pavlik. I think he'd box well at range, picking his spots and looking to counter over Pavlik's one track style, eventually landing the big blows needed to either put Pavlik out of commission or take a commanding decision.

    George Benton (uncuffed) vs Emile Griffith (in any other forum outside of the Garden)
     
  15. teeto

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    Well Griffith is the more skilled fighter, that's clear to me. He could be stopped here, but i don;t see a repeat of what happened with Carter, with Benton looking to pick his hard shots i think he just gets outboxed and hit with too many of Griffiths' combos that d the scoring.

    Joel Casamayor vs Flash Elorde