Hypothetical P4P Pacman

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Zone36, Jun 17, 2009.


  1. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    Bradley??? WTF.....You really think he's better than hatton much more worthy to fight pac???

    Hatton will beat bradley convincingly, you know why, Bradley got no power...All hattons opponent who have no power got KOed...

    Bradley...pfff...What a joke!!!:rofl:rofl:rofl
     
  2. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    there good fighters, but i just dont see how they have the offensive firepower, the one that has the best chance is guzman, but manny would hit him with combos all night.....campbell we dont even know how good he will be at 140....he has spent his whole carear at 135, and now cant make the weight there, remember how castillo looked at 140? bradley will come running straight forward trying to get inside and will get caught by right hooks and straight lefts.....

    manny wins all 3 fights against those guys, by stoppage most likely
     
  3. Solid Chin

    Solid Chin Concrete Wars Full Member

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    I wont argue with that but people will always have their opinions and subjective ones even on things like scoring a fight and how a fight should be scored so this sport opens itself up for this type of debates.
     
  4. Solid Chin

    Solid Chin Concrete Wars Full Member

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    And how are you so sure brother???

    As I said TALK BOXING TO ME dont talk to me from your hazy opinion

    Talk boxing, break this **** down. Has Hatton fought someone as slick and fast as Bradley before???

    So how can you possibly be so sure that Hatton would beat him when he hasn't faced him in the ring.

    Talk to me about boxing not fantasy talk...
     
  5. keure

    keure Active Member Full Member

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    you know solid chin i have to agree with you on a number of topics, the best fighter is never the man in the spotlight, ive said this before on this site the best fighter in boxing is paul williams, and he gets no credit because, he is soft spoken, but i dont think pac is this one dimensional fighter thast everyone thinks he is, i think holt gets destroyed by pacman, hes off balance too much and a little wild at times, i mean torres dropped him twice in 2 minutes, i think pac knocks judah out with ease, judah has no stamina and from what i hear a lousy work ethic in the gym, i think guzman is willing to engage a little to much for his own good against pac, although i think on your list this is the 2nd most exciting fight, i think pack would out work bradley in a close competitive affair, but i think pac would be in real trouble against a motivated campbell, not the one that showed up against funeka, campbell is very tough and he is a awesome inside fighter, and he fears no one, so i'd actually call that fight 50 50, but all the others i think pac beats with a close call against bradley, whom i think is very underrated, but i do think you are underestimating pac a bit, i do also believe mayweather comfortably beats pac, im only dissapointed in pbf bc he has the talent and smarts to truly be an atg but he is wasting it by not accepting the challenges of guys i think he could easily beat.
     
  6. Solid Chin

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    Bro, offensive power and power in itself is not the only thing that wins a fight.

    Tyson had all the offensive power in the world but when he faced a strategist he was lost in there.

    Naseem Hamed had a great offense and power but when he faced a technician he got outboxed and schooled.

    How can you possibly tell me that Pacquiao will be able to bust combos on Guzman all night when it is pretty much impossible to catch Guzman with a clean punch?

    Guzman is probably just as elusive as Mayweather is so please talk boxing to me and dont keep telling me,

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    Talk boxing with me brother, your talking fantasy talk, how are you so sure man, Pacquiao has never faced anyone AS SLICK AS GUZMAN,

    Not even Marquez is that slick... so please tell me how Pac would land combo's all night. Guzman made Humberto Soto looke stupid when he fought him because of how slick he was.

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    That is some fantasy talk right there, your not talking boxing your just fantasising and Pac aint this beast y'all painting him out to be.

    Put him in there with those guys and we will see but I totally disagree with you brother, so lets agree to disagree coz this conversation is going around in circles
     
  7. Solid Chin

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  8. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    That's the point, they haven't fight yet but you already recognized bradley as the best JWW...Hatton may have no skills, heck pac doesnøt have either, but they are good at it...

    Compare Bradleys and Hattons record, Hatton's shits on Bradley!!!:deal:deal:deal

    And oh, I've already told you, Bradley got no power, Hatton will walk through his punches and bully him....He may have no skills but definitely he'll **** Bradley up....
     
  9. Jeff Young

    Jeff Young Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    how is that fantasy talk?....guzman might be slick but he can be hit...FACT!

    bradley thats his style, is to try and fight inside...FACT pacquiao will catch him with right hooks, becasue manny is deadly with the right hooks...FACT!.....and the straight left will catch bradley, when tim comes running forward, holt caught him flushed FACT! so i'm sure manny will as well, who is faster then holt FACT!
     
  10. Solid Chin

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    Ok bro,

    First off, I have recognized Bradley as the best based on skill set and boxing ability, the ability to box.

    And you now have just told me to compare Bradley's record to Hatton's record.

    Now let me ask you this

    Compare Kirkland Laing's record to Roberto Duran's record at the time when Kirklaing Laing was totally unknown and flew all the way to America and beat Roberto Duran.

    Compare Carl Froch's record to Jermain Taylor's record before flying all the way to America, getting outboxed but still scoring a spectacular KO and winning the fight.

    Compare Mike Tyson's record to Buster Douglas record at the time when Douglas knocked his ass out.

    Do you get my point?

    If you go by that logic you will get lost brother, dont lose yourself in this mind manipulation tactic.

    It is a fact that the best is not always the man in the spotlight or getting all the rave reviews and hype so dont come to me with that nonsense logic
     
  11. ripcity

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    Cotto is a very good but not great boxer. Beating Cotto would be a nice win for Pacquiao but it would not make him the clear #1 P4P.
     
  12. tolindoy

    tolindoy UBESTRIDTE MESTER Full Member

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    Organizations rank fighters based on records...NOT based on skills or future achievements which you think will happen...

    Hatton was the nmbr#1 JWW before pac....FACT
    And saying Bradley was the best because he has skills....FANTASY until he beats Hatton

    get my point also?
     
  13. Solid Chin

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  14. Solid Chin

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    answer my post properly bro, dont gloss over the scenarios I just put to you, I hit you back using your own logic so look how stupid it was and realise that.

    Your not making any valid points your just glossing over the information I just presented to you.

    Are you going to argue the point intelligently or should we just end this discussion right here...???

    And for the record I dont see what point your trying to make because where is the logic behind it???

    You said Organisations dont rank based on skills then why was Mayweather at the time recognised as P4P number 1, what??? for beating Baldomir???

    Your logic is ****ing stupid.
    He is ranked because of his skill level and achievements, including resume, they all tie in together so what are you talking about.
     
  15. Main Events

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    Just one statement boys...

    Hatton got the fight with Manny because he EARNED it. Tszyu, Collazo, Malignaggi, Lazcano, Urango, Castillo, Mayweather. If there is one 140lber who pac should fight, its Hatton because he's EARNED it. You earn respect and payday. You dont get them by the ifs and the buts, the wills and the shalls