Hypothetical situation...

What CHJ is specifically saying is that Tarver beats Jones and gets the title, then fights Johnson and shares 1-1 with him, which is fair. But then he avoids young challengers like Paul Briggs and others, takes on Jones yet again...

See the pattern? These older guys fight within their circle here, despite holding onto the top title.

I can't pick any of them over the younger crop, except for maybe Johnson because he's remained fresh and even then he's just competitive.

 

Calzaghe has taken on the heir to the throne in 2006, is now taking on the next one in 2007 and has been trying to pursue the big American P4P names for the longest time, he's also cleaned out the Euro circuit(save for Ottke and Beyer, who ducked him)in his earlier career, disposing of an older Eubank, defeating Reid, tkoing Woodhall, nearly shutting Starie out etc.

These names that I listed above are no worse for wear than what Hopkins defeated pre-Trinidad, in fact, they are better.

It's not Calzaghe's fault that he was a very big danger but also of no name towards the international, namely American list of big names that bring each other big money. He is getting there finally, but still, Jermain Taylor avoided a 6 million dollar payday in Las Vegas and Tarver(pre-Hopkins) wanted no part of him, with the stipulations that Joe jump up and face Tarver in America at LHW.

See what I mean? The only case that anyone has that Calzaghe avoided, is Glen Johnson, and this was because of an injury for the most part, they sought to reconcile this by offering Johnson a fight at 175 in America after Tarver ignored and Taylor ignored, but nothing was heard on it and I can't tell you what happened, I know Johnson would have taken it, but maybe the money was not right.

 

First of all, I know how to score a fight and do so objectively when seriously scoring it and if I score the fight for Taylor, I will give him credit. Likewise if I feel it's a fight that is a 'swing fight' in the sense that either fighter could have gotten it, I'd give credit.

I feel Hopkins beat him clearly first time and Wright definitley beat him clearly.

I also scored the Spinks fight a draw, but since several 'swing' rounds were there, it was obvious that a Taylor win was fair, because Spinks sure as hell did not win it.

 

That may be. Regardless, Briggs and Adamek ducked it out for me at least on who's truly top at 175 two times, then Dawson nearly shutout Adamek.

We have to remember, Tarver ducked Briggs, because he'd have lost to the young hungry Australian slugger. Tarver didn't fight bums, Glen Johnson is an awesome fighter, but he fought for the money more so than the legacy and it shows.

Do you agree with me? After Adamek beat briggs on the Golota/Brewster undercard, I considered him to be the best at LHW, seeing as he also also KOed Ulrich and that Briggs beat the **** out of Drews(both are near Erdei's level).