I’m positive Holyfield would’ve beaten Tyson in 91

Tyson beat ring rusty and fat Holmes easier while Holyfield beat harder the better prepared one.
Tyson beat older Stewart easier while Holyfield beat the prime one and cracked him.
It means everything just like Holyfield beat Tyson in sparing and latter in pro.
Again Holyfield beat Tillis in 5 rounds.
He beat Buster Douglas in 3 rounds.
He beat Foreman and Bowe while Tyson ducked them.

Holyfield got his ass handed by Bowe?
Bowe was Super Heavyweight and Holyfjeld was cruiser.He beat Bowe worse than Bowe beat him in two other bouts.Holyfield proves he was the better in tha one bout he won.Also Holyfield not only won a fight but a war since Holyfield is good healthy man while Bowe is punch drunk.Holyfield beat Bowe again worse than Bowe beat him and now that is clearly valid infromation since Bowe is punchdrunk.Which SHW with Bowe quality Tyson ever beat?

Lewis clearly had a draw since Holyfield outpunch him later.He never outclassed Holyfield but got beaten instead.
In the second fight Holyfield was clearly robbed which Lewis suprised face could prove.
Everyone thinks like me but you are the oy stupid bum here who thinks different
And that was past prime Holyfield while Holyfield from Bowe fights would knocked Lewis.
Holyfield was washed and 37 years old and still had a draw and was robbed of win in second bout.
36 years old Tyson was knocked cold by older Lewis and that proves everything you moron!

 

It was not a dirty win against Ellis but a boxing trick which wasn't dirty in 70s and Tyson used same tricks latter.
He beat Jimmy Young twice and knocked him
He knocked Jimmy Ellis!
He knocked Norton.
He knocked Joe Bugner.
All those guys are better than any big bum Tyson faced and his KO ratio was proven in a better era.His only problem was glass jaw and stmaina which haven't any connection with his KO ratio.
Again:
He scored 68 knockout wins with 46 of them in the first 3 rounds and 23 first round knockouts.
Shavers hit harder. He dropped Larry Holmes with one single blow to the head. Tyson needed more than one shot to drop Larry. Plus Holmes said that Shavers hit harder and both were in their prime when he fought them.
Fighters who faced both Tyson and Shavers like James Tillis, Larry Holmes are quoted as saying Shavers by far hardest hitter. They should know they got hit by both. That’s one punch power!

 

Tyson's opposition is vastly superior to the one of Shavers.

No he didn't. He dropped him with 1 shot as well. The only difference was that Tyson was able to finish the business.

 

Tyson opposition?
Old Holmes
Old LHW Bum Spinks
Tucker
Smith
Bruno
While Shavers had:
Ali
Prime Holmes
Young
Ellis
Lyle
Bugner
Quarry
Norton
Prime Tillis

Yes he did!Shavers dropped prime Holmes with only one overhand right!
Tyson dropped Holmes with accumulation of punches and needed 3 Knockdowns to finaly finish grandpa Holmes.
Tyson dropped with many combos than finish him with again combo left to the body right to the head.But it was accumulation of Punches while Shavers needed only one overhand to knock Holmes.

 

Holyfield was no cruiser when he faced Bowe, he weighed 217 lbs.

How could Holyfield beat "Bowe worse than Bowe beat him in two other bouts" when:
- Bowe won a UD in their first fight, by 117-110, 117-110, 115-112
- Bowe KOd Holyfield in their second bout
- Holyfield barely won the second by 115-114, 115-113, 114-114.
Again, you prove you are a clueless moron.

It was Lewis who was clearly ROBBED in the first fight, you clueless imbecile.
Lewis won both fights.

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If you don't believe me, start a poll, and you'll see for yourself, clueless chump.

 

Your facts are made up. There you go you clueless imbecile:
Tony Tucker 222 lbs beat James Douglas 228 lbs by TKO at 1:36 in round 10 of 15
Mike Tyson 220 lbs lost to James Douglas 231 lbs by KO at 1:22 in round 10 of 12
James Douglas 246 lbs lost to Evander Holyfield 208 lbs by KO at 1:10 in round 3 of 12

 

We are only counting wins here, you imbecile, not the matches Shavers had against bog names and lost.
Are you really that stupid ?!?

Tyson also knocked down Holmes with just 1 punch, go watch the fight, clueless idiot.

 

Tyson was a much better finisher than Shavers but that doesn't mean he hit harder.

 

Holyfield was LHw when he started pro and latter he became HW but he was just a cruiser.
Riddick Bowe 235 lbs beat Evander Holyfield 205 lbs by UD in round 12 of 12 · Date: 1992- 11-13 · Location: Thomas & Mack Center, Las Vegas
Another lie you said he was 217?Just keep lying ignorant fool.
Holyfkeld was 220 1993/1994 when he got from layoff and heart issues so he added weight.

Holyfield beat Bowe worse than Bowe beat Holyfield ignorant imbecile again that KO in the third fight was when Holyfield was washed and had heart surgery idiot.
Prime for prim Holyfield beat Bowe worse than Bowe beat him.

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ONly fool here is you.Holyfield win the fight and won the war.He lost in third fight only because heart issues.But if we counted those two first fights Holyfield won easier plus he isn't punch drunk like Bowe so he won the war moron.

Lewis was never clearly robbed it was a Split draw and it could go either way but it was a draw.
So bum like you know better than judges?
Moron Holyfield was robbed in second fight even Lewis face said that when he heard about who is acutal winner douchebag.
Lewis didn't won anything against old Holyfield he had one drae and one lucky win.Prime Hoylfield from 2nd Bowe fight would kill him.

Again clueless and other troll quote you can put in your ass because I recognized you troll from youtube and your fake channels.
Everyone thinks like me and there are several other threads and 90% thinks like and 10% od assholes like you think the other way because they are jelaous and stupid just like you.

 

Imbecile you start thing about how Shavers era was weak and how his opponemts were weak so that counts wins and losses douchebag and moron.
Opposition mean everyone you faced imbecile and means guys who you beat and who beat you douchebag.
Only stupid again here is you and Shavers faced better guys case closed.

Clueless and other troll quotes you could put in your ass again.
Even Rooney said that Tyson got him with combos and that was his tactic.Cus himself said you could beat Holmes only with accumulation of punches imbecile.
Then, with one booming right hand, Tyson put Holmes into deep trouble. The right landed flush on the chin of Holmes, who dropped onto the seat of his trunks, in Tyson's corner.

Holmes got to his feet by the count of 4 and grabbed the ropes as Cortez gave him the mandatory 8-count. Then Holmes shook his head several times to clear it and let go of the ropes as Tyson came forward.

Tyson winged lefts and rights, trying to open up Holmes and land the finishing shot. A big right by Tyson sent Holmes lurching into the ropes and down again.

This time Holmes was up at the count of 5.

Tyson seemed intent on ending the fight, throwing and landing one punch after another, some of them causing Holmes's head to snap back. By now, ringsiders were shouting, "Stop the fight!"
Shavers knocked Holmes with one overhand and Tyson needed accumulation against old guy and needs to put him 3 times down to keep him down imbecile.
You are imbecile case closed!

 

Moron, in Tyson's case you only stated some names that Tyson beat, yet in Shavers's case you also stated big names that he lost to.
Complete ******, why didn't you do the same for Tyson ?!?
You're an utter ******.
I said Tyson beat better opposition, which he did. Tyson has a far better resume than Shavers.

You are the imbecile and this post of yours proved it.
Shavers never KO'd Holmes. He just knocked him down with one punch, just like Tyson did, which is what I was saying all along, that both men got him down with just 1 punch. The only difference was that Tyson was able to finish him.
Yes, it was an accumulation of punches that got the job done, but he only needed 1 punch for the knockdown, just like Shavers.

You are an utter ******. Either that, or you don't understand English at all.

 

It's irrelevant he started out as a cruiserweight.
He was a HW when he fought Bowe. Took steroids and got bigger.

That was the weight Holyfield had in their 2nd fight.
Riddick Bowe 246 lbs lost to Evander Holyfield 217 lbs by MD in round 12 of 12

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And please spare me with the "you know better than judges" crap.
Judges have robbed boxers and have given unfair decisions since the beginning of boxing.

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Here's the fight:

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So now you're coming out with the "Holyfield was old and past his prime" excuse ?!
So when I say Tyson was not the same against Holyfield, you say us "Tysonites" come up with excuse for his loss, but when you come up with a similar one for Holyfield it's ok, right ?!
So which one is it, you ****in' moron, where they both past their prime or where they both still prime ?!?

I have no youtube channels you imbecile.

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I've created a poll in the Classic section about it.
See how many agree with you.
Clueless dummy.

 

Good. Then we know that at least you won't call the Tyson that beat Golota washed up. And the one Holy beat much less so, of course.

By the way, I don't think Holy was washed up either when he faced Tyson. He was declined, though. The rematch against Lewis was the last decent version we saw of Holy. He summoned it up for one last show, but it wasn't quite enough.