I’m positive Holyfield would’ve beaten Tyson in 91

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  1. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Moron prime Tyson is 1988-1991 again with ening Ruddock fight and possibly first Holyfield fight moronic shitstorm!
    No one could be past at 23/24 except he had 100 fights with 15 rounds and how many your moronic arse hero had rounds?When he went full 15 rounds?Shut the **** up then!
    Training or not no one can past his best at 23 years old not in your Tysonite moronic arse!Hookers,alchohol and drugs are his mythical excuses with Don King to explain his lose against bum!He didn't drug or partied and was lean and prepared for Douglas fight just 2 pounds jeavier than from Spinks fight!He was in physical shape and young so he was not past you moron!
    He trained For Ruddock and Stewart as he did for Dozglas but your moronic arse could not accept he was beaten by bum so wants excuses with hookers and long count as every casual stupid Tysonite.He was the same Tyson since knocked Stewart in 1st round and Ruddock in 7 he was the same guy but fool like you couldn't accept that fact!
    His skiset so disminished after Rooney that he beat Bruno faster and showrd his best performance against,Stewart?
    88 Tyson wpuld lost against them same way as he did because little things couldn't help him and he would got beaten again and again by same guys!But stupid moronic guy like you belive in hype because you are just a stupid troll.
    Douglas was well prepared for Holyfield!
    So what if he was 15 pounds heavier!He was 15 pounds heavier for Tyson fight than Tucker but was he overweight?Nope in your Tysonite stupid mind again.I put you doen with a simole fact.
    Moron Douglas was a bum who had best win over bums and ancient Jimmy young.He got killed by journeyman Tucker and struggled to beat old Berbick.He was a bum like your hero was.
    His mother died long before that and that was after Tucker!His mother and father were inspiration to beat Berbick and McCall and then Tyson.But he still had motivation but clearly lost against better Holyfield.
    Hahah again excuses by stupid man!Everyone Tyson opponent was past when someone beat him easier!Like Ruddock was past,like Holmes and Pinklon were....leave that stupid Tysonite excuse story in your room not here.
    Tillis was bum and stopped before Tyson by Whiterspoon in 1st round but then you would say he was too green?
    Holmes was older but atleast was in shape for Holyfield fight and got warmed with few fights while when he faced Tyson was fat,sick and came straight after 2 years layoff you bum.
    Style makes fights moron:
    HOLYFIELD BEAT TILLIS EASIER
    HOLYFIELD BEAT DOUGLAS EASIER
    HOLYFIELD BEAT FOREMAN AND BOWE EHILE FYSON DUCKED THEM AND THAT'S HOW STYLE MAKE FIGHT MORON!
    Clueless moron Holyfield had draw with Leeis and beat him clearly in their second fight.Tysin was knocked by Lewis.FACTS!
     
  2. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I can't believe we still have the idiots fighting the cause for Tyson.

    Holyfield beat Tyson fair and square twice, if folk want to pretend Tyson was shot then go ahead but it's complete baloney.
     
  3. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Nope he wasn't moronic arsehole!
    Compared to 88 96 Tyson was more jacked,punched harder and was on peds!
    96 Tyson was zero defense but better ofense which he showed with beathing Golota,Mathis and beat Bruno faster than in his prime!
    1973 Ali was better than Green kid from 60s whoch Ali himself stated before Foreman fight you moron!
    Older Ali got better power,chin and stamina while younger was dropped so many times.
     
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  4. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Then it must also be hilarious to consider Tyson washed hed up when he smashed Golota's face?
     
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  5. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not sure about Klitschko (though he was great), and though I'm sure Bowe would have beat Mike in the 90s, I'm not sure about prime Mike. Bowe tended to get hit a lot, and I don't know if he could have stood up to the ferocious, continual assault and superior defensive skills of 80s Mike. Bowe would have relied mostly on his jab, and could have caused a knockdown with his uppercut, though.

    Steward-era Lewis could have beaten prime Mike, but I doubt any earlier version of LL would have.

    Just my opinion.
     
  6. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not washed up, but he just didn't fight like he did in the 80s anymore. Much less combinations, inexorable forward movement, his defensive skills weren't up to that level...

    Still, a really fine puncher and of course an ATG overall.
     
  7. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Vitali definitely has all the physical advantages over mike and great boxing skills, if he comes in with a good game plan to beat mike I see no reason to why he wouldn’t be able to pull it off
     
  8. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He was definitely declined, but Holy at that time was losing to Ruiz.
     
  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Did he accomplish more than Tyson? Tyson was the youngest heavyweight champion, made 9 successful title defenses and unified the HW title. That's some ATG stuff right there.
     
  10. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Yes he did accomplish more than Tyson

    Holyfield is a former undisputed heavyweight champ and the only 4 time heavyweight champ, you could also make an argument that he should be 5 time heavyweight champ. He also has 5 wins against heavyweight hall of famers and you can make an argument that it should be 6.

    Tyson is the youngest heavyweight champion, also a former undisputed heavyweight champion, and only two time heavyweight champ, has wins over 2 hall of famers and both of them were coming off long layoffs, and one of them was a light heavyweight with a knee injury

    Holyfield also started his career at light heavyweight, don’t evencompare Tyson’s accomplishments to Holyfield’s:lol:
     
  11. SerbianLoudmouth

    SerbianLoudmouth Overhand right-Suzie Q Full Member

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    Did he beat Lewis?
    Did he went distance with Douglas?
    Did he had iron jaw so he wasn't never knocked unlike Tyson?
     
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  12. Johnny_B

    Johnny_B Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I was talking about Tyson, not Douglas, u dummy
     
  13. Johnny_B

    Johnny_B Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Tyson wasn't in the greatest shape because he fell off his pigeon coop a couple of months before the Tillis fight and had to take 7 weeks off from training do to a serious injury , that's why he wasn't in the best shape for that fight. And he still won.
    I repeat, your analogies are downright moronic.
    Tyson KOd a 38 year old Holmes, Holyfield needed the distance to win on points against a 42 year old Holmes.
    I could use that as proof Tyson would beat Holyfield, yet anyone with a brain will tell you it's irrelevant. Same as your moronic comparisons.
    What they did against common opponents does not matter. Styles make fights.
     
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  14. Johnny_B

    Johnny_B Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Tyson had plenty of moments when he was a counter puncher. His style and stature allowed him to slip/get under opponents punches, making them miss and become unbalanced, then hit back. Do not confuse a composed prime Tyson with the 90s version, which was nothing more than a stupid head-hunter.
    And although I agree Holy was very durable, he only got there after he packed huge amounts of steroids. The younger Holy was smaller and not as strong as a 96 Holy.
     
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  15. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Vitali was indubitably great, of course!