I am a boxing manager: if you have questions about the boxing biz, ask!

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by dempsey1234, Dec 31, 2012.


  1. peleador

    peleador Member Full Member

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    What are the EXACT steps needed to take a kid to the Olympics demps ? (or anybody else outthere that knows)..ive reaserched it on intrnet..but its vague....thnkx! :bbb
     
  2. jasper2005

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    Earn a spot in the Olympic trials qualifier thru events held during the year. Then win the trials; or come in second and go as an alternate
     
  3. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's it, couldn't have said it better.
     
  4. East Side

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    You probably have a very rough go of it without proper backing. You will however probably be picked up at your door, chauffer driven to your bouts (in the Meat Wagon) and then dropped off at your door again when the night is over in what ever condition that you might be in. They come get you to make sure that you're showing up for your beating.

    Good management IS PARAMOUNT!!!!

    I was very happy with mine, things sprung in to action real quick.

    But truthfully you should be ready to fight anybody with a similar amount of bouts if you want to walk around calling yourself a pro fighter. Atleast

    But success in the ams does not neccesarily translate to success as a pro. Kelcie Banks being a prime example.
     
  5. peleador

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    How do you earn a spot in the olympics trials jasper2005?..and thnx for you guys's replies!..apreciate that!:bbb
     
  6. peleador

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    Also..what is the age limit for a boxer to be able to turn pro? In California?..i recently saw a fighter (in the news)..he was 51 yrs !..(i guess..if you can deliver the goods-age doesnt matter..) What do you guys think? B. Hopkins being #1 example..until what age the boxing Commision steps in ?..(B. Hopkins-awesome..,hope hell fight for years to come!)..if you have the skills...stamina.enrgy...and r healthy..does age really matter? :-:bbb
     
  7. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Age matters with the commissions, in Texas if you are over 35 you have to get an MRI and other tests. Jasper is from Califas he can give you better info.
     
  8. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Some guys don't want to pay and want to do it themselves and save the money. A real good case of "A pennywise dollar foolish" thinking.
    A thing you have to realize is that a managers % is negotiable it's not set in stone. The legal limit is 33 1/3%, I ask for 10%, I could ask for more but 10 to me is fair. A manager has to bring something to the table just like the fighter. A manager who has a resume of having done this and that, and has the $, to help the fighter then he deserves all he can get.
    A fighter brings himself so to speak, a manager should have knowledge of the business and how it works, the contacts, and the experience. A manager has to be prepared to answer any question the fighter has, and not be defense. SORRY TO SAY THE TRUTH, THERE ARE NOT MANY WHO FIT THAT BILL.
    And believe or not most promoters and managers are not out to screw you. if you earn your place believe this they will look to make you happy, very happy. Hopes this help somebody make the right decision.
     
  9. East Side

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    I agree with you for the most part, except that promoters are not out to screw you. They'll get over on you every chance that they get financially. You might get the win but the fight is not over until you get your check cashed or deposited.
     
  10. dempsey1234

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    You are right for the local yokel promoter who bounce checks, and leave bills behind, but the majors, like Top Rank, GoldenBoy and the rest everything is spelled out in a contract. The terms and the money have to be signed to go into effect. When Pac fought Barrera his promoter at the time offered Pac $300,000 out of a $700,000 pie The promoter's defense Manny accepted the 300,000, and basically he is right, did the promoter take advantage of Manny? Not to the promoter's POV, to him it's business. Understand this the promoters job is to make money and he wants to keep as much for himself as possible, the fighter he wants to get paid the most money possible and that's where negotiation comes in, if the promoter makes an offer and the fighter accepts that's it. I am not saying it's right, it's business, each side wants to make the most money they can. A promoter especially the majors make a lowball offer its the managers job to say yes or no to the deal. Remember information is power, the more you know the better the negotiation will be for your side. Some promoter will bully you into a fight again you have a right to say no the thing to know is what your contract says about amount of fights per year they have to offer you, it's all in the knowing.
     
  11. East Side

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    I trust promoters about as far as I could throw them. Small scale or large scale they will try to get over on you every chance that they can. Always read the contract before signing. There are so many ways that they can get over on you. If you trust them than you are leaving yourself open to be taken. Truth.
     
  12. sooners4life98

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    Promoters probably think they will get over on me because I will be a newbie manager. I will research as much as I can to make sure this doesn't happen.
     
  13. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You don't have to trust, Just know how to play the game. Like former president Ronald Reagan put it, "TRUST BUT VERIFY", that's how you do business. But also as they say, "to each his own", good luck in your dealings.
     
  14. dempsey1234

    dempsey1234 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is a clause in every contract by law, that you are entitled to an attorney. Do your homework find out what's what and you will be ok. Paranoia helps nobody.
     
  15. sooners4life98

    sooners4life98 Member Full Member

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    That is the truth. Paranoia out the window.:cool: