I am a boxing manager: if you have questions about the boxing biz, ask!

I just got back from hospital,got a cast on my broken arm..got the answer i wanted from the Orthop. Doctor...."NO -..once the bones heal..they wont be weaker than the other arm"..."YES-,,,you will be able to train with same intensity as before.but..AFTER the bones are completely healed-6 MONTHS!....just thought id give you guys that info.it might help someone..so if training is your priority...careful... if you have a heavy labor/manual job..if you break your arm-youll be out of Commision for minimum 6 months ---before you can train with same intensity ..:bbb....

 

That is great advise..thnks..theres a trainer/manager at a boxing gym i was going to couple years back..(he told me a while back he used to train with Goosen Team)..he asked me that i could help him train guys at his gym.if i wanted to,i shouldve.. (but i didnt take him on his word..cus i wanted only to train at the time)..but I need to go back and find him,tell him i can do it...your right ..ill take advantage of this time..(maybe its gods way of forcing me to switch professions and finally do my purpose!! )..gota make something happen..cus theres ALWAYS been a little voice for MANY years telling me to pursue something in boxing..I. love the idea of mastering the art of taking a 'know nothing gym rat'--into a wealthy guy with sports cars at his house ! ..lol..CHINGON!

 

Certainly has been some interesting reading on here recently.
The experiences I will share are this for the fighter.When you start out your path in the fight BUSINESS doing your homework is paramount.The team your going with and YOU have chosen essential.
The word 'investment' you will come across a lot in your career from managers,promoters,trainers be it their money or time.
The 'investment' the fighter should make is this get some good legal advice before you sign anything.Invest in yourself.
What can seem expensive at the start for a fledgling pro will work out cheaply in the long run of a successful career.
The promoter will of course pay you what he thinks you and your team will accept be it fair or foul.The fight business is ruthless at times,always has been,always will be.
The fighters that go on to be the stars of TV and PPV if guided and managed correctly become the commodity.The landscape changes for the fighter as can the promoter/manager you work for.
That investment you have made in yourself,checking that initial management contract (5 years max) duration & terms,priceless at this point.
For those serious about the hard career path ahead that money spent,that 'investment' will bear some serious dividends,options and protection.
Guys,when the ref calls you to the center of the ring for that first pro bout make sure you follow the instructions to 'protect yourself at all times'.
Outside the ring as well as in it.

 

Great info Makingweight!... :good ..youre a manager?..trainer?..? :bbb

 

..yea ,i think its up to the fighter to get RESPECT...even from his own management team..and not be treated as 'bait' for other fighters.....in my opinion i think that if your truly good--you really wont have to worry about finding people...people will be wanting to find you.(and work with you)..of course its up to the fighter to choose right though...how do you find prospects dempsey?..do you have talent scouts ?..conections with gym owners? Visit gyms?...give us some secretes .je je...thnks! :bbb

 

..oh yea..i did see him fight a while back on you tube...hes veerryy good..thats the style of fighting i like..in my opinion - the best style a fighter can have.....very technical/smart...agressive BUT carefull at same time..always punching to do damage... + the heart and passion for boxing..kindv]e like the style of M.A Barrerra..Sal Sanchez..JM Marquez..Morales..Hollyfield... and many others..hope he does great..and doesnt get derailed..usually you can tell the level of skill a fighter has in only a few minutes..iv always believed that thers many guys outhere training in obscure old gyms-,that are BETTER than many champions out there..they just lack the belief in themselves that they have whats needed ..and end up falling through the cracks..ive ran across many of them....:bbb

 

Heres a personal question demps...(...its ok if youd rather not answer this one)...#1 how long did it take for your first " project" to get him to the championship fight?(after turning manager)....#2 what were the biggest mistakes you made as a manager when you were starting out?..#3 now that your experienced, ..what are the mistakes you see managers making all the time?....thnkx:bbb

 

Dempsey - I just spent an entire night and now well into the next day reading every post of this 65 page thread and every article that you posted a link to. I just wanted to say Thank You for the time and effort. I found this thread by accident while Googling miscellaneous fight info. I have my hand in a variety of business interests and after a string of good fortune, I recently started a gym. I have been a boxing fan my entire life (as well as an MMA fan....although not quite as long...basically the 20 years or so ago that UFC started up). Because I have a bother-in-law that has trained MMA most of his life and is a pretty sharp guy - we originally opened an MMA gym. It didn't take long however for people to start asking about boxing. Long story made short, I knew a guy that knew a guy that knew Reggie Johnson (we are in Houston) and after getting to know each other....we made a deal to bring Reggie on board to oversee our new boxing program.
After boxers started coming around it didn't take long to start hearing stories like the many you guys detail in this thread: boxers forced to sell tickets or fight for free; boxers having opponents switched on them at the last moment; purse amounts changing as they are about to walk into the ring, etc. And I guess because they are desperate to find someone to trust -- you can probably guess they are asking around for a manager. I won't lie and say that I am not intrigued by the prospect of helping boxers find a fair, legitimate path to success....despite having no real experience. I think the business acumen is there. I think the support team is there. And I have no shortage of lawyers! But after reading all of the information that you have been gracious enough to put forth - I just wonder if I can go toe-to-toe with the seasoned "snakes" well enough to do these boxers the justice they deserve in the way of representation. You have given me quite a bit to think about and absorb, and for that I want to say Thank You again. It is rare that you can find someone to pass along such a wealth of knowledge without compensation. I feel like I just took Boxing Management 101 and 102! And you are obviously doing it for all the right reasons. You deserve to be commended.
By the way, if you are ever in Houston, allow me to buy you a beer or coffee or whatever your chosen poison is. Find us at Legions Training Complex.

 

I was considering coming down to watch your guy fight but I am also in the club/bar business and just cant get away this weekend. Can you offer guidance on finding someone to create a tried and true contract between manager and fighter? Or an example copy? Obviously willing to pay for the service. Would have sent a PM...but I cant.