I am a boxing manager: if you have questions about the boxing biz, ask!

Like always .Great answers!..thnks..
Ive heard from fighters that went through what happened in Chavez vs.Leavender fight.(Ray Mancini..Ruelas..etc)..that they are not the same fighter afterwards...did it affect Jesus Chavez style in the ring in any way?..
..you said you were an advisor...exactly what is the role of an advisor?..how is that different than a boxing manager?
..thnks

 

First off, thak you for this thread. I really like it.

Since you have been an advisor yourself, do you have one advisor working for you now that you are a manager or you dont need any advisor? I mean, it is kind of mandatory to have one advisor in order to perform well? Every manager/promoter has one/several of them?

 

Chacal beat me to the question...i figured a truly good manager..should not need an advisor(cus he probably knows more than the advisor)..
..Ive been a fan of boxing for like 30 yrs.(best sport in world!).but..
.ive never heard of a boxing advisor..
So how do they get paid?..%..contract?.and who pays for his services..fighter?..or manager?
.im guessing top managers dont even want to hear about advisors.lol.
..also..how does a person becomes an advisor?.(not that i want to be one..my thing is training)
...my guess is...
great knowledge of boxing,..
..& the boxing biz..and word of mouth in the boxing community?

 

..when a fighter gets involved with a "$ man".....money man pays for basically all the fighter needs..whats his return on that investment?.(or what SHOULD be his return amount?)
.is there a contract between them that states total amount $guy will forward the fighter,& for how long?..they both gotta keep tabs on how much has been given to fighter?..

 

When you sign over to become pro it becomes one thing a business,you have to also be realistic.All businesses need to grow with investment and realism and calculated risk.

I know a bit about the business UK side and sometimes fighters and their teams have to be real in what to expect,especially when looking to purses for where you are at career wise.

A domestic fight a few years ago here was Groves v DeGale sure you guys may know both.Genuine dislike,both sides dating back to amateur days in the same gym Dale youth.

They shared a 320k purse decent money as both prospects,even if it was PPV here in the UK,sure they got add on's if the people behind them knew the market.

Groves by SD and moved on of course to two big money fights with Froch,financially great for him but career wise he has had hard fights,he imo in a must win fight with Jack.

DeGale I know plenty about has turned his career around,the loss against Groves has driven him on.The loss has focused him great performance away from home against Dirrell.

The public here would love to see Groves-DeGale 2.The purse I have written dwarfed by big seven figure sums each end.

A loss doesn't finish a career in fact the exposure can open doors.

 

Yea..also..alot of times a loss "wakes up" a fighter..cus theres alot of -Ok- fighters out there.. that think that theyre the best of the best- in their mind-..
They throw a punch or two..or fancy ptypat combinations...stand back and admire their work..false confidence...but once they lose..most are forced to go back to the drawing board...
Makingweight..what is the age limit over in UK for turning pro?..or is it the same as in the U.S?

 

Dempsey you have any inside knowledge of what's going on with Loma/Rigo negotiations?

 

18 minimum the maximum has seen guys like Matt Skelton who was a well known kick boxer turn pro at 35.

That would be an exceptional case.British boxing board of control website gives you more details FYI.

 

Wow..i think thats a good deal-For the $ guy/manager!-i guess its better to stay way from that if possible..
..demps,where you in Jessie 'James'Leija team? James Kirkland?
Also..i am gona go into training (my arm is almost healed)..ill do it locally and then move to L.A (i liked the advise u gave me)...
Do you think doing it full time is a good idea?and stop losing time?..
.cos i know there would be little money..at first.-if at all..
Also..i really like trainer Abel Sanchez style of training.do you know about him?was he a fighter?..how did he acquire his experience?
I couldnt find very much about who his mentor was.
Thanks.

 

Thanks!..demps.
Just saw the fight Giuriseo vs. Saucedo.(your fighter)..
Help me understand-
Why would Giuriseo's team want to take such a dificult fight in Saucedo?..
Why not build Giuriseos record ..(& more imoptantly experience!)..and not have another blemish in his record..
.i CAN understand when its a BIG $ fight..but at this stage in their careers ..whats the reason for that decision?
.is it cos maybe (if) a lucky win like this, would catapult Giuriseo?..or basically just to get a paycheck?..if you were on G..team..would you have made that decision?..why so..or why not..
Thnks.