I am a boxing manager: if you have questions about the boxing biz, ask!

I believe in A&M, "A"-Ability, & "M"- Marketability. Ability, you can teach, Marketability or charisma, you cant teach you either have it or you don't.
I also look at the losers in amateur tournaments cos in the amateurs guys who fight like pro's, punch to the body usually get robbed or lose cos they cant catch the guy. Myself, I am from NYC, and specialize and only manage Mexican fighters and all have pop.

 

Good Question but easier to answer than you might think.

It is something I have regularly asked experienced heads in boxing,how much of the 'old school' matchmaking especially when overseas transatlantic fights were involved were you using local knowledge,scouting reports etc?
In the olden days before the internet promoters like Mickey Duff and other Europeon promoters counted on people they knew to deliver the "right guy" for their fighter.
Most Americans booked overseas came from two well known and knowledgeable American bookers. Johnny Bos and Robert Mittleman, they were both human laptops. They knew everybody, and they could deliver.
The Overseas promoter might have a local kid who they are trying to protect and build up. An American on the kid's resume looks good. So the promoter tells the matchmaker, what he wants, a guy with a good record, who cant punch, a faded name, an ex champ who is still

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To me it seemed the 'old school' way was about trusting and backing your own fighter other than an opponents record and fighting style at times for me stance,height and record only tell part of many a fighters story.
There was no trust the promoters knew who they were dealing with and the bookers understood, no mistakes

Without the modern mediums when sending or getting an opponent from overseas it seems at times it could of been a real roll of the dice?
There was no toss of the dice, they knew everything about the guy, if a local lost by chance, it better have been an accident or a fluke.

Sure you have some good examples to give.[/quote]

 

It depends, usually it's 10% off the top, but lets say you have an assistant trainer, a cutman, and a strength & conditioning guy, then the 10% has to be split. The head trainer can do it and pay everybody out of his 10% share.
An example is Juan"the baby bull" Diaz, he had a whole crew and they had to share the 10% amongst themselves, head coach, asst. s&c and cutman.

 

Easy fights are a hard sell to promoters, commission will be looking at the records of the opponents. The major promoters get away with "easy" fights cos they can pay a guy with a good record to come in. A small promoter wouldn't be able to do that. Look at the records of Oscar Valdez, Saul Rodriguez they are stacked with guys with good records, who had no chance of winning. Major commissions look at records. A fight a month is also very hard cos not many small promoters have that many fights, they usually run 3 months apart.

 

Thought I might comment on the Lomachenko vs Rigondeaux falling through.
This is a piece from an article that illustrates a manager-promoter conflict and who in the end pays, the fighter
Top Rank’s Carl Moretti – who look after Lomachenko – shed a little light on the situation, saying he still has hopes for making the fight down the line if the Cuban’s team climb down on their demands.

“Rigondeaux’s team has no realistic understanding of the marketplace, which is a shame because the fighter gets hurt the most,” he said. “We’d love to make that fight, but not for what they were asking for. It’s a song we’ve heard before.

“Lomachenko wants to be challenged every time out. Rigondeaux provides a challenge for him in his mind and probably in the ring and, hopefully, we can look at it again for the first fight next year if they come back to earth.”

The manager and the promoter of Rigondeaux are in conflict over the purse and what it should be. Their eyes are on the purse, not on the one they represent, which is Rigondeaux.
Rigo is not my cup of tea, he is a skilled boxer, his manager and promoter should just try to get the best deal possible which apparently they did not. Like I have said pro boxing, is not misnamed its a business. The formula for Rigo is for him to go after the biggest names and make some money while he can. His manager and promoter, should realize that Rigo has a boring style, which translate to low demand to watch him fight, low demand means less paying fan's and so it goes. Who in the end pays Rigo by sitting on the bench. The Lomachenko fight would have gotten him a very good payday but I guess it wasn't big enough for the manager and promoter.
Rigo's promoter, is a promoter in name only, I am not sure how many fights they promoted if any.

 

JCR, Sorry you encountered the dark side of boxing this happens more times than you would think. Signing with the wrong guy leads to more problems then help, this happens at all levels, for example Rigondeaux. That's why I started this thread, to help somebody make an informed decision rather then a had no choice desperate decision. Once you sign a contract its like you are married with a ring around your finger. Getting rid of that ring will be difficult if the guy you signed with is going to hold you to it. Don't know the laws concerning managerial contracts where you are at. In Texas its a civil matter, the state commission doesn't get involved. Check with your state boxing commission they can tell you best. If you PM me with a scanned copy of the contract I will look at it and I can advise you on the next move. If its a civil matter the guy you signed with has to hire a lawyer that costs money, then it comes to push comes to shove. Chances are that he might not pursue that option cos it will cost him money and its not worth it. The guy then can threaten you by calling the local promoters and blackball you. You are stuck between a hard rock and a hard place. This is what happens when you think you have no choice.