**I am a Pacquiao fan...but he is NOT the greatest Filipino fighter ever...**

Well that settles it. Fatsys "heard" that Elorde "got no power", discussion closed.

 

To be clear, I rank Pacquiao higher than any Filipino fighter of all time based on his accomplishments, and a fight with Elorde would've been a very good one at 130, though I'd have favored Flash. More well rounded boxer-puncher at the weight IMO.

I also think a guy like Rolando Navarette would be a very stern test for Pac at 130, as he was a very good technician with even better southpaw punching power.

 

for all we know Pac could lose his next 5 fights. Judge him when his career is done.

however if he were to retire today, his greatness is undeniable

 

Pac has acomplished more than Elorde and Villa theres not much more to be said,but if you want to rank the other two ahead of him i have no problem with it.

its better than having Foreman in the top 10 ATG.

 

this guy knows nothing about filipino boxing
someone make a best puerto rican fighter thread and put them in this order

1. Tito
2. Cotto
3. Juan Manuel Lopez

 

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Id say PAC but Villa was without a doubt the greatest had he not died.

People are shortchanging Elorde who held the SFW title for 7 straight years.

Navarette, he was talented but he was mentally unstable, hes in jail now I think

 

I cannot make an esteemed opinion based on the fact that I have never seen Elorde or Villa fight.

 

youre talking out of your ass like always all you do is guessing.
youre making it sound like Elorde was some kind of masterfull boxer like Willie Pep. Elorde was relatively easy to hit and he dint hit as hard as Pac he also wasnt as fast as Pac altough he had good speed too .
also he was an incosistent performer great one day and average in the other ,he would give Pac some problems but in the end Pacs superior strenght and punching power would make the diference and would lead to a late stoppage or a clear decision.

as for Villa he died too young and didnt acomplish as much as Pac,his best win is over Jimmy Wilde who hadnt fought in two years.
saying Villa would beat Pac at flyweight is just stupid,Pac wasnt anywhere near his prime at that weight.

in the end when we talk about ranking fighters it comes down to acomplishments and Pac has acomplished more than those two.

is that too dificult for you???????????????

wait!!! yes it is im talking to a guy that doesnt have Roy Jones in top 100 ATG :rofl:rofl:rofl

 

actually i don't care whether pac is the best pinoy fighter or not in your opinion... as long as you're giving respect to pinoy fighters through this thread... we appreciate it:good

but my list is still

1. pac
2. villa
3. elorde

 

In fairness, Ortiz was greater than anyone Pacquiao has faced.

But I think Pacquiao is probably the greatest asian fighter. :good

 

i would really have no complaints if the 3 are intechanged since the three fighters basically fought 30 years between each other. we live in the present that is why pac is getting most of the attention and the accolade but accomplishment wise, pac would seem to be the best as of now.

pancho villa showed the path for future filipino fighters. elorde was truly impressive given the fact that he ruled for 7 years.

so for me it will be

1. pac
2. elorde
3. villa
4. penalosa. never been knocked out. best defense and technical skills.
5. navarete. similar to tyson case.