I am aware that most heavyweights are bums and over rated but. . . .

I hereby declare David Haye credible.

 

Two 230-300 pound men fighting it out in a box is not easy, even for "bums". Heavyweight division is the hardest because it's the close you can get to a street fight in a sport besides MMA. You can't drain your opponent, he can be as tall and as heavy as he pleases and any punch can be your demise.
The lower weights are great but the results can be determined before the ink dries on the contract.

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Anyone who steps up and puts the gloves on, regardless of ability should not be labelled a "bum".

Those who do, don't appreciate the sport, and should STFU.

 

thats dumb. reminds me of those people that cry about calling a soldier a coward, claiming that putting on a uniform takes guts and is never a coward. ive known plenty of cowards in uniform, just like theres cowards and bums who box.

 

Listen here you big stiff idiot there is not a man born from his mother can beat the furious one.

I don't want to hear about that pensioner Wladamir, bodybuilder AJ, Basketball player Wilder or any of them stiff europeon midgets like Povetkin.

 

thought so. little girls like you should not be commenting on stuff they know nothing about.

 

Fury, Wlad, Parker, Ortiz, Wilder and AJ all fighting each other to determine who is the ultimate champion

That works for me.

First stage:

Wlad vs AJ
Parker vs Ortiz
Wilder vs Fury

 

Haye is better than Parker at the moment and probably wilder because he continues to struggle with guys not on Hayes level too!

 

I don't think it's the same. Most people go into the military because they can't do anything else. I'm a veteran and I couldn't get out fast enough. So many idiots in the military. It bothers me anyone is labeled a hero for just being in the military. Let's keep the phrase hero for true heroes. The hero propoganda is by charities like wounded warrior who keep almost everyting for themselves.

The likelihood of making money in pro boxing is very little. It's a passion you must have to want to be pro. I wouldn't call any of them a bum.

 

that was a large part of the point im making, nothing is the same across the board for either group. ive been around situations that required numerous men to show what they are truly made of, and some men come up way short. guys like camacho jr or ortiz have showed cowardice imo, regardless of how much passion they had to turn pro. so now it becomes a matter of what a bum means to you, because there are lots of pros that cant really fight or have weak hearts when compared to the large majority. saying no boxers, or soldiers for that matter, are cowards, is naive at best.