I am not buying the Lomachenko hype (poll added!)

Good post. Some people on here act like Lomachenko victories over Garcia and even Crawford are foregone conclusions. I don't see it.

 

besides the salido fight has he even been challanged by any of his opponents ?

and his resume is to deep now, hype has been proven

 

Whether or not you buy into the hype he's an extremely impressive technical boxer who has made three world champions/contenders quit on their stool in his last 3 fights. He's top 10 p4p already.

 

He has 10 fights. All the top P4P fighters have fought rivals at the same stage of their career I wouldn't even spar with and yet Lomachenko impresses in every fights, against top fighters. What else does he need to do to earn some respect from Americans?

 

Lol. You are actually dishing out technical advice to lomachenko? You must love the smell of your own farts. Your arrogance is astonishing.
So you want to criticise him for fighting for world titles so early in his career? Because he didn't earn it? He earnt it by winning...and in two weight classes. Yet you would rather him pad out his record with 15 bums for you to consider him p4p?
Get to the back of the haters queue

 

What I find annoying is criticism of fighters If they don't have or use singular ko punches

Loma style is never going to facilitate a big ko punch he throws 1000s of punches with accuracy and plenty of movement.

Getting the timing and power down to knock out an opponent with heavy shots is one type of particular offense that he doesn't and will never employ

If fighters quit on their stool it shows he's virtually impossible to deal with

 

Lomachenko is seen as a TBE talent. For him to achieve that status, he won't achieve 'buy-in' with haters and skeptics until he beats Mikey convincingly and one other truly elite fighter (from that angle I can completely understand). Until then, he will continue to get the hate. Roy Jones proved himself with Toney and Hopkins. Mayweather proved it with Corrales and to a slightly shakier extent, Castillo.

He wouldn't have looked amazingly good against Salido either in a rematch, so people will still hate on Loma saying he gets hit too much when the rematch happens, even though Salido is his ultimate stylistic threat.
These same people who criticise Loma were moaning that Loma wont fight Walters and Walters is too much. I'm not going to let that one slide.

Grooveongreg hit the nail right on the head. There's more to offense than just setting up the knockout, Loma's style just forces his opponents into submission without putting himself at risk.
Rigo isn't the greater amateur to me. Myself and Dealt_with were the first to hype Loma to the gills, in 2012. But I remember people were saying some good things about him then, so that's fair.

 

I think that speaks to the level of his competition. Even Robinson and Duran, as great as they were, were challenged by some of their opponents. I am not ready to put Lomachenko on their level yet. How good you look depends on who you face in boxing. I am already a Lomachenko fan and he and Crawford are my favorite current fighters. If he makes Garcia look pedestrian then I will be ready to call him the pfp best.

 

You don't think making the opponents quit has something to do with him not beeing able to KO them? Or should he blast out lightweight in 6 rounds every fight?

In the Marriaga fight he was in complete control, and when he finally put the gass down he scored a knock down and made him quit inside a round. I'd call it killer instinct.

Also, where Rigo and Loma really in the same generation? Didn't Rigo turn pro just when Loma started making some noise?

 

That's a very high bar you're setting. Ward didn't make Kovalev look pedestrian in their two fights (coming from someone who was vocally supports Ward and was trashing Kov that night and felt Ward won the first fight when watching it live).

 

Why is that such a high bar if Lomachenko is as good as some are making him out to be? I think Mayweather made Alvarez look pedestrian and some Lomachenko fans, who also are Mayweather detractors, say Lomachenko is more skilled than Mayweather ever was.