I am not buying the Lomachenko hype (poll added!)

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by BigBone, Aug 6, 2017.


Where do you rate Lomachenko pound-for-pound TODAY?

  1. P4P#1

    37.9%
  2. P4P#2

    6.9%
  3. P4P#3

    17.2%
  4. P4P#4-6

    23.3%
  5. P4P#7-10

    8.6%
  6. Not achieved P4P pro raking yet

    6.0%
  1. mandatory

    mandatory Nuthugger Crusher Full Member

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    Loma is a great fighter and looks like he will be a top attraction and fighter but IMO he is still not on the level some people put him in.. Lik saying hes pfp # 1 and all that.. Naaaa. Not yet.. Way to early for that.. Needs more time.. Still hasnt fought an elite opponent.. Im still not on the wagon.. But I do like his style a lot and think he has a chance to be elite someday.
     
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  2. slender4

    slender4 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Well, lets go inside the numbers:

    if Money-May fought 12 rounds in every pro fight and 3 rounds in every amateur fight, that is (12x49)=588, 3 in every amateur fight that is (93x3)+ 279 for a total of 867.

    Lets say Hi-Tech, being the devastating amateur he was, averaged 2.5 rounds per fight, amateur, WSB and professional. That comes out to 990.
     
  3. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    You can probably count on one finger how many people done what Lomachenko's done in 10 fights. Twist it any way you want, many other amateurs could have tried to do the same, many did and failed. Either way you cut it, what he's doing is impressive.
     
  4. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The hype is real to the extent he's an excellent, lower-10 P4P-er and an absolute top craftsman with a huge upside. But then again, that's not hype, that's reality.

    Hype starts when he appears on top 3 P4P lists (even #1 on some :) ), that idiot Teddy Atlas is crowning him as the best (achieved) pro while he doesn't even rank GGG, and when Garcia, arguably a more accomplished pro and a bigger name is... not big enough to be on Loma's list. :D

    THAT's the hype I'm not buying, cause, you know, that's pure TR / fanboy fantasy.
     
  5. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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  6. GoldenArms

    GoldenArms Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    I like Loma but I just can't see how you can rank him ahead of Crawford and Ward
     
  7. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    After Canelo-GGG and the Crawford Unification fight, providing Crawford wins, Lomachenko will be 4th.

    1. Ward after taking Kovalev's soul.
    2. Canelo-GGG
    3. Crawford
    4. Lomachenko
     
  8. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    But its not like he's only had 10 fights is it?

    The WBS is fought bare chested and scored using the professional 10 point must system. He had 6 fights in that tournament and there really is no difference between those fights and the fights a pro debutante would have.
    You can argue it was only 5 rounders , but most pro's go 3 , 6 , 8 rounders in their first 10 fights.
     
  9. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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  10. Zulawski

    Zulawski The Fistic Pariah Full Member

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    Loma is great, but people act like he's some untouchable deity. Mikey Garcia will prove otherwise.
     
  11. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Where do you train BJJ and Muay Thai, I assume it has to be in or around London, right? I am in the U.S. but would very much like a chance to train with you sometimes. it might be worth a trip to the U.K. we could ffilm it and put it up on here.
     
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  12. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Not related to boxing. Not associating with racists.
     
  13. Kevin Willis

    Kevin Willis Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Just as I suspected, you are nothing but obfuscation.
     
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  14. Tettsuo

    Tettsuo Active Member Full Member

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    Very talented and skilled fighter? Yes.

    Top 10 P4P? Nope. He only has 10 fights against mediocre competition... one of which he lost.
     
  15. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Hahahaha! :D
     
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