I am sick of the tyson won on fear myth

Tyson didn't win on intimidation alone but once he lost the aura he also lost a big part of his effectiveness, just like Liston and Foreman before him.

 

Very true, especially when he came up against other pinnacle level fighters like Holy and Lewis. Granted he still staved off big dangerous guys like Rudduck.

 

Yes I agree to a point, that is why I said you need to be able to control your fear.

Say you fancied prime Charles to beat Tyson. If Ezzard went into the fight thinking he was going to knock Tyson's head off, he would be badly outgunned and probably lose.

If Charles went into the ring afraid of Tyson he would probably lose.

But if Charles went into the ring respecting Tyson's power because he knows what could happen if he does not, then Charles would stand his best chance of beating Tyson.

 

we really dont know how tyson would have reacted. right after the douglas loss, he responded very well knocking out dangerous # 2 contender razor ruddock and flattening alex stewart in 1(who went 12 with holy) and henry tilliman(who beat him at trials). we dont know what would have happened to tyson or how he would have done vs holy in 91 because he went to prison

 

great quote there:good
just out of curiosity who is the guy in your avatar

 

I do think there were times when opponents were very afraid of him, like Spinks and Bruno (talking about the second fight more than the first). But that fear came from the fact that the man was dangerous. It wasn't a myth that he was a badass. For a very brief time, he may have beaten any heavyweight of any era.

 

People forget how good Mike Tyson was when he was young. Before he won the heavyweight title, I watched Tyson become almost the perfect combination of Floyd Patterson and Joe Frazier. The only thing Tyson doesn't have that Frazier and Patterson have is the 15 round endurance skills. Frazier's left hook was better than Tyson's but his right hand was not as strong as his. Tyson used to move his head, roll out and hook to either side and jab in and out to attack and counter. He did none of this against Lennox Lewis. Like Patterson, Tyson used his jab more and wasn't always coming forward. There were a few early fights where I saw a young Mike Tyson circle his opponent and attack on the angles. Joe Frazier used to do this early on in his career. The main impression of Frazier is the fact that he always came forward which wasn't the case. Frazier was an all time great at staying low and using the angles to land body shots. Patterson had the fastest hands of the three and perhaps the best jab. Tyson arguably could have finished his career in the top five if Cus had lived. He would have made sure Tyson's head was on straight and wouldn't have allowed him to be destroyed by Robin Givens, Desiree Washington, Don King and other useless trainers. A few years back, before he fought Lennox Lewis, Teddy Atlas called him out and welcomed him back with open arms. If Tyson had trained with Atlas again, maybe his weight would have been down and he would have moved his head a whole lot more than what he showed against Lewis. Tyson was an intimidating fighter and only after his exile did he start using fear tactics. Mike Tyson was a complimentary winner and helpful of his beaten opponent early in his career.

 

I totally agree.:good