I am sooo sure that Solis will beat Vitaly that ...

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  1. Gamboa Express

    Gamboa Express Jeremiah 33:3 Full Member

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    Keep hoping ...
     
  2. Cubanísimo

    Cubanísimo New Member Full Member

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    Thanks! I can see this is one of the most important fights. I am amazed that so few of you think that Solis will win, forget the weight issue Solis is a monster .
     
  3. Irish84

    Irish84 Mr Full Member

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    Odlanier Solis has the build of a mighty olympian not a model with a neat little six pack, he will add a little salt and pepper to vitali and his meal will be just ready
     
  4. Gamboa Express

    Gamboa Express Jeremiah 33:3 Full Member

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    Hi Irish, thanks for joining my thread !!! It will be party time for us on March 19...

    PS, Solis has lost a lot of weight and looks in the low 240's !!!!!!!!!!! :scaredas:
     
  5. Stevenson#1

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    COLOGNE : WBC Heavyweight Champion Vitali Klitschko predicted Monday he would beat Cuban challenger Odlanier Solis inside the distance this coming Saturday at the Lanxess Arena in Cologne, where a reported 19000 tickets have been sold for the fight. " I can fight 12 rounds at a high tempo but this fight won't last 12 rounds ". " There are good amateurs from Cuba but IT'S DIFFERENT IN THE PROFESIONAL GAME " said the 39 year old Ucranian. Vitali conceded that Solis was perhaps his most difficult fight since his return to the sport and admired his amateur career, but he would be knocking out the challenger. 30 year old Solis was an Olympic gold medallist in 2004 and is also a three-time amateur world champion, has won all his 14 Pro fights to date. The Challenger also declared he would end Vitali's reign inside the distance, Solis believes he will end the fight in the final round, if not earlier.


    Wow, I thought Vitali knew better than to make those comments , he just joined a long list of boxers that understimate Cuban boxers before a fight. ¿ Why do they do this? some do it for self-confidence, but Vitali is already a Champion so I don't know , he should follow the example of his fellow Ucranian
    ( Syllakh ) who didn't talk rubbish or understimated the Cuban ( Despaigne ) before their fight. I guess we will have to wait untill Saturday to see if he can back up those words . Peace.
     
  6. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I don't think Vitali is underestimating or dissing cuban boxing at all he is just stating the fact that there is a difference between being a top amatuer and being a top professional boxer. Just because you were a sucessful amatuer doesn't mean you'll end up ever winning a title as a pro. Look at Audley Harrison and Jorge Luis Gonzalez both sucessful amateurs but didn't acheive anything of note as a professional.
     
  7. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you all can come back at me. vitali will school solis and solis will either give up in the tenth or 11th round our lose a wide decision. the fist two rounds will be competitive, then vitali will punish him.
     
  8. Stevenson#1

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    Although is true that an Olympic medal doesn't nescesary guaranties a suscefull Pro career you can't denied that it's a damn good way of identifying skill in a boxer , of course sometimes there boxers like Audley Harrison that manages trough a fluke to get one , but they are the minority , the truth is that MUST OLYMPIC CHAMPIONS GET TO BE GREAT PROS TOO. Audley as I said before is the biggest fluke of them all . I remember telling everyone here in UK about it and a lot of people didn't believe me , first of all you have to see the way he won that gold medal and the competition he had to defeat in order to win it , first of all he didn't defeat any ranked boxer ( Cubans , Russians , etc ) , Audley Harrison was very fortunated to be in the easyest group and in the final he faced a boxer worst than himself ( if such a thing is possible ) , so the British media built him up a lot with out realising his true potential : HE IS A BAD BOXER , he is not even a clever boxer , he is unwilling to learn , he's also a lazy boxer who before wining the Gold didn't like training much and after wining it he trained less ( I know this from good sources believe me ) so when you use him as an example it doesn't really proof your point , on the other ( Jorge Luis Gonzales ) let me tell you that he also never won anything important during his amateur days in Cuba , not because he was
    as bad as Harrison but because he was number 3 in Cuba . As I said before he may look interesting to someone outside of Cuba but for us cubans HE WAS **** and we knew it ( We still supported him but we weren't blinded by the media as people in England were with Harrison ) so your point is not really valid , as I said before : must great Amateurs boxers were on to be great Pro boxers . Peace :
     
  9. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    you are right, but the problem in this era especially for solis, chagaev and povetkin is that you have two champions who were great amateurs themselves and they are still fighting 15 years after their pro debut and not really getting worse
     
  10. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    How is my point not valid? Are you saying what I said is untrue? Does every top amatuer that wins olympic and world gold go on to win professional titles? I simply agreed with Vitali's initial statment that "It's different in the professional game" and used Harrison and Gonzalez as an example.

    My point was that Vitali wasn't doing what you were saying and "under estimating cuban boxers" but simply highlighting the fact that Solis' amateur success would not automatically mean he would have similar success as a pro. While being a good amateur often does mean a succesful pro career it's not a guarantee.
     
  11. philby

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    Why don't you stick around after the fight Gamboaexpress so we can all laugh at you?;)
     
  12. Stevenson#1

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    Mate that's all I want from Solis , TO IMPOSE IS SUPERIOR BOXING SKILLS AT THE BEGINING OF THE FIGHT , If he does that then Bye Bye Vitali , you are making the classic Klitschko fan mistakes here , just because Vitali has beaten tomato cans up until now it doesn't mean he will do the same with a GREAT boxer like Solis , don't get me wrong I'm not saying that Solis is invencible but he's ( Solis ) very difficult to beat , he's also a very intelligent fighter ( wich the others weren't ) that's used to box ( and beat ) big guys ( Savon , Alekseevs , etc ) so you saying that he's going to get the same treatment the others got at Klitschko's hands is ridiculous , " The first two rounds will be competitive then Vitali will punish him " , well not against a boxer of Solis pedigree , as I said if Solis imposes his superiority early on then it will get worst for Vitali as the rounds go ( remember he's almost 40 ) , and it won't be Solis who retires in his stool because Solis is the kind of fighter that gets BETTER as the fight progress . He also looks to be in great shape and happy to be back in Germany with his family ( this is great for his mental preparation ) . As I posted a long time ago Solis knows that this is his opportunity to win a belt and make HISTORY in the way , in other words THIS IS IT , Peace,
    PS: I will come back to you .
     
  13. Antsu

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    Nobody wins an Olympic gold with a fluke.

    Only qualifying in the Olympics, requires really hard work and great talent.

    Not every Olympic medalist went to became great pro fighters, but it doesn’t make their Olympic wins to a fluke. Besides Audley did become European champion and world title challenger. That is already a pretty good pro career.
     
  14. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    okay i will write more of my opinion. i know that solis is talent wise in the same appartement like vitali, wladimir, povetkin and chagaev(you know that povetkin and chagaev are really talented guys). he is smart and he is very good. But vitali klitschko has one of the best staminas in the last 20 years. this guy can throw 1000 punches at the age of 38. so you can't tire him. and i think that solis wants to tire him. but solis was gassed after a flurry against austin and got slower at the end of the fight. thats a big minus for solis. even if you lose weight, to improve your stamina you need a lot of time. solis can block the jab but vitali is a smart fighter and will punch solis with his hybrid punch, his jab left hook uppercut punch. you could see this punch in the arreola fight. so solis trys to block this left hook/uppercut/jab and will get punched with the straight jab. vitali will need time (the first two or three rounds) to time solis. thats why it will be competitive at the beginning. an other point is that vitali is very akward and solis never faced a fighter like that, who is smart, akward, tall, good chin, and very good power and who is a counter puncher. vitali faced guys who if you combine them are similar to solis. so vitali will know how to react to everything solis will try. solis will try to get inside but he won't do it. to beat vitali you have to be tall, athletic, with great power and good defense (lewis, wladimir, bowe(**** defense but he has what it takes)). so i see it going vitali by ud 117 -111
     
  15. Stevenson#1

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    Excuse me if I'm wrong but the Klitschkos weren't GREAT amateurs , I've never heard of them before becoming Pros , I ask you : ¿ What did they do in the ams to be catalogued as great amateurs ? ¿ What titles did they won ? ¿ Were they Olympic Champions ? , ¿ Did they won the World Champioships ? and if they did ( wich I doubt ) ¿ How many times did they win it ? . The Klitschkos Brothers being cataloged as great amateurs by their fans is something Im seeing more and more these days , on the other hand Solis WAS A GREAT Amateur ! He won everything there was to win in the Ams , Olympic Champion , Panamerican Champion ( Twice ) , World Champion in 2 different wights ( Trice ) , Cuban National Champion ( many, many times ) , etc. Klitschkos are OK but they are not great boxers , theirs is more bussiness than the sport of boxing , ! Their fans are so delutional that some have even stated that Vitali is better than Ali ! I mean , come on people ! ......