I am still calling Bullfeathers on Fury doping

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This has to be all *******s. Lets put this in context.


    February 2015- The sample is taken that comes up positive, presumably for the Christian Hammer fight.

    November 2015- Fully nine months after the "dirty" sample is taken, Fury is allowed to fight for the world title. If he were dirty, then how could this happen?

    June 2016- Fury is "suspended" by the UKAD, fully sixteen months after the sample is taken and seven months after he he won the lineal world title. What now?

    July 2016- Fury is allowed to sign for a world title fight in October, despite being "suspended." The ****...?

    August 2016- the "suspension" is "temporarily lifted" pending a hearing--FOR SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED 16 MONTHS AGO. In the meantime, Fury will be able to defend his title. So what in god's name is the purpose of suspending and athelete anyway?

    I can't wait until Fury wins his lawsuit and this incompetent, perhaps criminal agency known as UKAD goes straight out of existence. Seriously, without the slightest bit of exaggeration, this is the most foolish thing I have ever heard of in my life. Fury has obviously done nothing wrong, and if he has, then these clowns at UKAD should be put in jail for gross negligence.

    Peace.
     
  2. Nuro

    Nuro Active Member Full Member

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    Its an odd one but Boxings apporach to drugs in general is very strange, almost accepting.
     
  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    It's going to be hard for Fury to win his lawsuit. It's clear he has failed a test, hence the charges, he would have been invited to witness the testing of a B sample which likely came back positive as well otherwise no charges would have been laid according the UK anti-doping rules.

    Fury himself confirms a failed test in his law suit by saying the nandrolone likely came from a supplement. So he can't say it was naturally occurring as he himself says it was likely from a supplement he took and the fact Hughie also failed the test confirms it was likely from an external source and not naturally occurring.

    Only way Fury avoids a ban in these circumstances is if there was some failing by an official which led to him receiving a positive result as in the case with Greg Rusedski when the ATP handed out tainted supplements to tennis players.

    As for the delays who knows why it took so long, nandrolone can be a difficult one as it can be naturally occurring and is often found in supplements. Could simply be a case of the new testing procedures and tests coming into place delaying confirmation of charges.

    Fact is we don't know what happened during the period he tested positive and the time he was charged. What we do know, he definitely failed a test, it was not naturally occurring as confirmed by Fury himself in his law suit. That usually means a ban is coming, but we'll see.
     
  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    My guess here is this:

    The elevated levels were borderline, and it was initially not going to be something that was pursued. It BECAME an issue 16 MONTHS AFTER THE FACT AND AFTER A TITLE FIGHT(!) because, and only because, they cannot sell the Klitsckho rematch.

    A combination of the first fight being a stinker and Fury's controversial statements have made the rematch unsellable. Boxing is, after all, a business.

    I don't know who is greasing who's palm, but this is not a drug issue. It doesn't take sixteen months to call someone on the carpet for drug use.

    As for it being indisputable that he failed a test, and he admitted to it and all of that, yes, we shall see indeed.
     
  5. Nuro

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    How long did it take for Teper and Tony Thompson?
     
  6. lufcrazy

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    It's a very strange one tbf. Interesting to see how it plays out.

    Does his victory get overturned?
     
  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Teper was roughly five months I think.

    Thompson I don't recall exactly. There was some delay, but UKAD specifically said that it was because Thompson sued and made a case that it had entered his system through medication. In any evet, it was not six months. That is not the same as the charge only being made 16 months later.
     
  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There is no way.

    A) The "positive" sample was not from the Klit fight.

    B) The Teper and Brown results are still standing, and they seem to be much clearer cases than this.

    Wladdy is just going to have to swallow that loss.
     
  9. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Teper's case was really straight forward as not only did he fail a test he was found with PED's.

    Tony Thompson's case was like Fury's. He failed in July 2013 after the Price rematch but according to UKAD the process was dragged out due to legal proceedings instigated by Thompson so it wasn't until July 2015 that he was banned, a full 2 years.

    https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2015/jul/29/tony-thompson-failed-drug-test-boxing-ruined-david-price-career

    "UK Anti-Doping said in a statement the delay in Thompson’s failed drugs test being revealed was a consequence of the American’s response to the charge. “The athlete instigated a lengthy legal process, including filing an appeal which he failed to progress and which was ultimately dismissed,” the statement read."

    I'm glad you brought up Thompson it suggest the delay in the Fury case is the same and down to legal proceedings instigated by Fury.
     
  10. Nuro

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    Didnt know that about Teper!

    I thought the Thompson one was similar time period. Worrying times for Team fury
     
  11. Robney

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    It's very annoying when we get these half assed, unclear doping allegations, while the orginasations that handle the prove incompetent, partial and/or seem afraid for massive claims when they screw up.
    It's insane how long it takes for them to come up with a ruling about the Povetkin case and this one.
     
  12. Brighton bomber

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    I suspect you are right when it comes to doping is just a mess. The sanctioning bodies do very little about it.

    Petersen admits cheating prior to the Khan fight yet that result wasn't changed, Thompson caught doping after the Price rematch and caught again in another fight later on and yet Price still has a loss officially on his record.

    Wlad may get Fury stripped and may prove that he was fighting a doped up Fury but I doubt he'll get the decision reversed. Boxing should hang it's head in shame how it just accepts doping.
     
  13. Unforgiven

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    If Fury is claiming a "contaminated supplement" he's virtually admitting his guilt.

    It's no big deal really. He took some nandrolone.