I applaud Pac....

Wow... what a performence. I dont know why, but this fight Pac showed something else.... no, he wasnt able to hurt Clottey (maybe because Clottey hid his face for 90% of the fight) but wow.... I would have never thought he would dominate Clottey that badly. This is a clottey who has never been dominated before, period. Once again, Pac shows hes just on another level. Over 1200 punches? Incredible.....

Pac has shown he can be a berzerk killer, Pac has shown he can be elusive, Pac has shown he can counterpunch, Pac has shown he can be the stalker, and now tonight Pac has shown that he can simply throw 1200 punches in a fight when he needs to.

I didnt give Pac much of a shot at Mayweather, ill be honest, and i realise that Mayweather is in another solar system to Clottey and if you want to see a fighters output drop, put them in with someone they cant hit, but still, i was impressed tonight and a fight with mayweather just got that more interesting to me.

As for Clottey, what can i say...... in all honesty, i liked Clottey, and i still do but i kinda lost a little something for him tonight. How are you gonna bring an ordinary performence like that in such an extraordinary situation? And he KNEW he needed a knockout to win in the 11th and 12th and he STILL refused to open up. I dont know... call it 'smart' or whatever you want, but its not for me. Yes i realise Pac had a lot to do with it, but sometime during the fight, wether it be early or it be late, a Champion will have to put it on the line, and Clottey didnt, and shows ONCE AGAIN why he will never win his biggest fights.

I thought the night was so so, the undercard was awful, clottey was awful, but Pac made up for it to make it so so.

Castillo SHOULD NEVER FIGHT AGAIN. Period. I bought into all his talk of him being back in the mix of things and 'feeling' it again, and all that, but he just is as shot as a fighter can be. In fact he shouldnt be allowed to fight.

I was completely dissapointed in the Soto Diaz match, and Diaz actually did a lot better then i thought he would. But to me it seemed like a friendly sparring match, until a few seconds throughout the later rounds. Diaz impressed me, and despite the win, Soto did not. I dont know if Soto was going easy on Diaz or what.... but that was a pretty dull fight, and closer IMO then the scores would indicate although yes i realise Diaz was KD'd twice.

Anyways, i had to express my feelings towards Pacs performence, and when he said it was for all the boxing fans out there, throwing 1200 punches, damn.... what more could one want from their p4p champ? :good

 

Its not Pacs fault that Clottey couldnt be at all competetive (or maybe it is)

Hello, he faced THE HIGHEST RATED AVAILABLE WELTERWEIGHT

That there is the facts.... again, when the mayweather fight fell through, he fought the highest ranked available fighter in his weightclass

How exactly is applauding Pac for his performence a load of crap? please enlighten me.... WHAT MORE could Pac have done with a guy who was there to stand behind his guard the entire fight?

 

Good :good

 

Ya, Pac DID fight a great fight.... are you serious? you must be joking....

You tell me please what you would have liked to see Pac do in there other then what he did? please enlighten me.

And yes, Clottey was ordinary, that doesnt take away from Pacs performence atsch

And Clottey wasnt just ordinary for no reason, Pac made him look that way.... but my gripe is that Clottey didnt go above and beyond and rise to the challenge (like usual) instead he played it safe.

A great showing is a great showing, a fighter can have a great showing while his opponent doesnt.... what is it about that that you dont get exactly?

 

Exactly slantone :good

Thats what i kept saying during the fight, youve got Pac who should be fighting at 135 or 140, chasing and knocking about Clottey.... unbelievable.

I agree for the most part Pac couldnt break the guard, but most people havnt been able to split Clotteys defence, and i dont think Mayweathers shell when he uses it is quite as sturdy as Clotteys, and i dont think Mayweather is as strong to absorb that, though i dont imagine for a second that that would be the defence Mayweather imploys. But your right man, Pac wasnt able to crack it too much, but then what does he do? Tear up the body.

We have all seen plenty of fighters get frustrated with the shell defence AND NOT ADAPT to it, but pac did.... he worked the body in a way he seldom has before and idk... he impressed me about as much as he could against Clottey barring knockdowns and such.

 

hey s1983 i want you back in here and tell me what exactly you think Pac should have done more of or differently in that fight to the point where this is the biggest load of **** youve seen on ESB.... im waiting.

Pac had a guy who had never been dominated before and adapted enough and performed to the point of the most one sided schooling of Clotteys career.

I want you to tell me what pac should have done.

 

No doubt bud, i agree Pac made Clottey look worse because of his own performence.

And i also agree it was the same Clottey, but see m'man, that is where my problem with Clottey comes in.

He fought the same fight that he did against cotto and margarito, in performences in which he knows why he lost, and then he brings it like that against Pac, in the biggest fight of his life and on the biggest stage he'll ever have against the best opponent he will ever fight..... and he brought the usual. At one point in the fight (probably when his trainer was pleading with him to do so) he should have risen himself to the occasion he was in and put it on the line, the fact that he didnt, leaves me with a bad taste for him.... i still like clottey but he was dissapointing to say the least.

just imo