I ask a trainer if he thinks he could beat Floyd Mayweather in a fight to the death

Exactly

 

Khabib's background is sambo, Ronda Rousey is trash who got ktfo cause she couldn't strike and was mocked for her horrible boxing and Fedor's background is sambo too. Yes the other two have Judo backgrounds but that's like crediting Stipe only for being a golden gloves winner when he also has a background in wrestling. Wrestling is far more effective than judo because of the lack of gi in mma.

 

Whyte would ko most of the HW division. It's asscheeks bruh. A 40 year old 5'10 guy kod the part time firefighter champ in a round the first time they fought. It's been ass for a while. Derreck Lewis the top contender was beaten by a 40+ year old Mark Hunt. Arlovski still is a contender despite being a million years old. Hell Wilder could probably train takedown defense and also be a contender cause the division so bad.

 

There are a lot of belt holding strikers in the UFC who only learn enough to stop takedowns and let their hands do the talking. If Mike Tyson learnt to stop all takedowns, I'm pretty sure he would be able to kill almost any human alive apart from high-level professional UFC fighters in a streetfight.

Floyd is small so it is unfair to compare him to huge guys in a deathmatch. That being said, he is not a power puncher anymore, but he does hit hard enough to hurt most people and in a similar way to Tyson, is he could stop the takedown he would be hard to beat for anyone under 147.

Just because they haven't learnt grappling doesn't mean they couldn't.

 

Moron. Look at my post history, I was posting on the boxing training section of this site since 2004.

Second we could do perma ban now, I’ll rexord a vid of me training and you record yours.

Unlike you I actually fell in love with boxing because I competed in it. Not an armchair combat expert like yourself.

Moron.

 

Power is relative. McGregor is a world class puncher in UFC yet it was obvious who had the power advantage in floyd vs McGregor.

Floyds power in world class boxing is average, but he’s probably the hardest hitting guy you would know.

 

There are also usually multiple people involved in a chaotic melee. I don't care how well you have an arm bar locked in, it won't mean **** when some rando come and boots you in the face whilst your down on the ground.

Then there's dirty tactics like eye gouges and nut shots and potential weapons to deal with. UFC fanboys need to get a grip as to what happens in the street is a very different situation to what happens in the octagon.

 

I agree with most of what you're saying except the notion that wrestling is the best base for mma. Yes, it's dominant but that can be explained due to the vast majority of Olympic Medalists and College wrestlers going straight to mma since they have no other prospects unlike boxers. BJJ also used to have a lot of talent like Jacare, Werdum, Maia, Aronaand now Gilbert Burns transitioning but I predict newer Jiu Jitsu champions who transition to have less success due to the point systems in modern jiu jitsu (it's awful, like Gordon Ryan would probably be **** in mma).Grapplers have no other avenue to make money, so they go to mma. Imagine Golovkin going straight to mma after the olympics, good lord. Adesanya, who's the MW champ, already took gold and doesn't have a wrestling background. I guarantee that if more boxers went to mma after the olympics then we'd start seeing a shift, and hell we're already going towards an anti wrestling meta with boxing being very important as a foundation.

 

I've seen otherwise plenty of times, poor kid. You just don't indwrstand boxing and have nothing beyond the most basic grasp at best of the sport. Just go away man.

 

You did not see a crap...the 90% of the times a boxer loses against grapplers,wrestlers and kick boxers and the videos proves it

 

This guy thinks street fights are competition or organised events. 90% of fights are quick and dirty.

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I'm done talking with you and I've been in plenty of MMA gyms. Of course they will lose against bonafide MMA fighters who are grapplers, kickboxers, etc, etc.'

You teach a boxer how to defend against leg kicks, mid/torso kicks, and high kicks and the kickboxer is in for a SHORT night.

Teach a boxer how to sprawl and the wrestler or grappler is in for an even shorter night.

There is a reason that at this point in time striking seems to be the most deciding factor in almost all big UFC right now.

so again, you ****ing idiot, you get a

 

My man. Thank you for putting all our differences aside in that other thread and coming into this thread and being a real mother effer. You're a bigger man than me @dangerousity .