I asked AI to simulate a fight between Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson

Tyson wins on points in a boring fight, this is the most likely scenario.

 

UTTERLY UNREALISTIC and based on unfounded assumptions.

 

You don't think AI is a menace to humanity?

No one who watches boxing could possibly imagine Ali losing to Tyson, so that surely isn't the reason for your shout.

 

You should have asked AI for a fight between Jess Willard and Lennox Lewis

 

TBH, I would rather see prime Tyson fight Wilder or Foreman. That would be a much more action packed fight

 

Actually, I do.

Perhaps Ali fanboys don't, but those who really understand this sport know that Tyson has a huge stylistic advantage and that he was trained since he was a kid to beat up Ali type boxers, thus a prime motivated and trained Tyson would be a nighmare for Ali and has the upperhand.

 

Yes- though I’d call Douglas a better boxer on his night.

 

Take me through the fight Frank, why would Ali beat Tyson so definitely?

 

Again, pre fight Ali would work over Tyson's fragile psyche ( can we all agree that Mike is emotionally fragile or at least was when he was active?) to the point that Mike would be defeated mentally entering the ring. Think how Bruno looked before Tyson II. Surely we can all agree also that Ali was a master at manipulating his opponents.

In the fight, Ali (we are talking PRIME Ali right? Pre draft) keeps Mike at bay easily with his jab and movement. Ali snakes out right hands occasionally. Mike never, or rarely, lands his dangerous left hook to Ali's body, and when he does, Ali takes it in stride. Tyson never lands his vicious uppercut. No rope a dope tonight, Ali is up on his toes until the 8th or 9th round when he tags Tyson in the corner with a massive multi punch attack and knocks Mike down, who gets up but is on shakey legs. Ali continues the barrage until the ref stops the massacre.

It's really an easy fight to decipher.

 

The premise of Ali duking it out with Tyson in the middle of the ring is not reasonable. Ali would stay away from Tyson until very late rounds. Brawling with Tyson early would spell doom for Ali.

 

Give it Ali / Jeffries, Tyson / Tommy Burns, and Foreman / Corbett as a double check.

 

But not in Muhammad Ali's second reign as champion, Muhammad Ali had legs in 1967, he could move for 15 rounds non stop, but when he came back in Oct 1970 after a 43 month exile, his legs and stamina were long gone, that is why fighters like Joe Frazier and Ken Norton dominated Ali. Ali's second reign was too dramatic for my taste, he was superior from 1964-1967.

 

Good Post. You Tube does not cut it for those fellas who never saw Muhammad Ali fight live. I saw many of Ali's title bouts live on television or the first Patterson bout on Closed Circuit Television.

 

Okay, so you think Mike Tyson who was a gang banger since he was a little kid and saw friends die Infront of him before he was fifteen is going to be shaken up by cute poems? and insults about his lisp, insults he's heard since he was fetching pigeons on the roof? You've got it backwards, the profanity and scumbaggery Tyson can bring will shake Ali up, see his exchanges with Oscar Bonavena and how easy he lost his cool.

He keeps Mike away easily with his jab? Ali couldn't keep Ernie Terell or Chuvalo who just took it on the gloves (Ernie) or out right took it on the face (Chuvalo) from getting inside on him in his prime. Should I bring up how well he controlled the distance on Frazier and Norton? Ali ate left hooks like candy bars, even from slugs like Bonavena LOL he doesn't suddenly gain the ability to avoid or block them easily against someone like Tyson, God help him if he throws his uppercut down by his waist like he did with Frazier so many times. Tyson will put him down eventually in that case Cus or whoever is in his corner will see this weakness just fine.

Now watch how Norton fought Ali in the dictatory moments of the fight, in there jabbing and leading exchanges. Similar to Frazier, Ken made himself shorter and he jabbed with and came in on Ali who fought going backwards, Ali was forced to shooting down and leaving his guard very low leaving the right and left flank exposed which someone a lot faster/Mobile like Tyson would capitalise on more then Ken.

Norton like Tyson left his right hand at home and not by his side to catch/block/parry returning jabs, this means every time Ali jabbed he'd eat something in return and Norton (Or Tyson) wouldn't taste any leather, it'd only be a better of time before Ali started doubling up on his jab and Tyson would capitalise with a right, before you mention his reach see his fight with Holmes they took countless plays from Norton in that fight, namely the above mentioned jabbing with Holmes, next to the left hook, Ali's kryptonite was jabbing exchanges it's all on film Mike was capable and excelled at all the things Ali was susceptible to.

Also Ali isn't up on his toes against Frazier, quite simply he isn't up on his toes against Tyson, in his hardest fights he was mostly stationary, he'd have better luck being more stationary and cagey especially against Tyson you've got it wrong. Trying to waltz around flicking your all arm jab against Mike? see what happened to Holmes, he was doing quite well till he tried getting on his toes, Ali should and you by extension study what Holmes did right against Tyson.

 

Ali lost to Trevor Berbick. Tyson destroyed Berbick in 2