I asked AI to simulate a fight between Muhammad Ali and Mike Tyson

Tucker hurt Lewis and had more reach than Ali, Douglas hit Tyson all night long and Tyson didn`t have Rooney in his corner and Douglas had more reach than Ali.

 

Not another tireless Muhammad Ali vs Mike Tyson thread for the millionth time.

 

Mark - i don't remember Ali dropping anyone with a left hook.

Conclusive and quite destructive proof provided.

Mark - But it was slow, and not powerful, and he hit him a bit prior with ANOTHER LEFT HOOK, and he couldn't hit Tyson with two HOOKS, the guy had no head movement, the night sky was purple with blue accents that night, someone in the back row yelled out right hand incoming, Bonavena blinked....

Ya killing me Ant!!!!!!!

 

This is where you've been going drastically wrong for years and the core reason why you can't give credit to genius's like Ali, Jones etc.

You need to get out of this fundamentals oriented mindset to break the shackles and take big steps forward Mark.

 

You are killing me Mark.

 

So fundamentals didn’t beat him. Fighting a guy who was better period beat him.

If it was fundamentals that decided outcomes, Naz would have lost to most opponents he faced. Because most of them had better fundamentals than he did.

 

Anyone can be trained to be a great, Ali wasn`t clever in the ring he was always getting hit by hooks.

 

Forest and trees again Mark.

No not anyone can be trained to be great. This shouldn't even need to be conversed.

Ali was most certainly clever. Where are all the hooks he "always" got hit with at his fastest in the 60's? Anyone that doesn't knock out Frazier is going to cop loads of left hooks.....Frazier might be the greatest P4P left hooker ever.

To be pedantic i never said "clever" i said he was a genius. He was sure no dunce tho.

 

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Ali was dropped by Sonny Banks and Cooper with hooks.

 

So what? He wasn't even a title holder at that point. Holmes was dropped as a title holder by Shavers and Snipes and prior by Isaacs. It happens. Louis was dropped by various guys, it happens. They are all great fighters.

 

That doesn't work, just like the claim Ali wasn't clever in the ring.

 

The Happy Hooker. Ha Ha.

 

I was just pointing out that it was hooks that dropped Ali, he was far better at avoiding right hands than left hooks.

 

So? How does a gut shot impact Williams brain from getting rocked to the point his body falls down from Ali's punches, because damage to the brain is what causes knockdowns and KO's, not getting shot in the stomach years prior. Not like Ali even threw a shot to the body either. Doubt Ali even knew he could do that.