I believe a PRIME MIKE TYSON would rule the heavyweight division at this time,do you?

A hungry, disciplined, fit and mentally half-healthy Mike Tyson would dominate any era exception made for Ali's b4 1970 and even tho there would always be someone like Evander Holyfield around the corner to expose some flaws anybody has.

 

Only the Klitschko's would even be competitive. Everyone else would get annihilated in similar fashion like his opposition in the 80's.

Vitali at this point in time is too old and past his best. If Chisora's head movement and pressure was able to get close to this Vitali then a faster, harder hitting, more active and skilled Tyson would have no problems getting in close.

Prime Tyson faced many opponents with good/great jabs, Holmes, Bruno, Thomas, Biggs and he had no problem whatsoever walking through those jabs and getting his shots off. Wlad's lack of an uppercut and weak chin would see him getting KO'ed, he might be winning when in happens but it would happen.

Not easy fights for Tyson at all but I'd favour him to get the wins.

 

No doubt

 

It's hard to say, Wlad is looking pretty much unbeatable but without the right opponents it's hard to gauge how good he really is. I'd give Tyson of '86 a chance to KO Wlad and maybe beat Vitali on points, but I wouldn't put money on him beating either brother.

 

Mike is great but the Klitchko's are too big for Mike. Really the Klitchkos are just not heavyweights, They are superheavyweights. They are dominant, but it is sort of like Chad Dawson having to fight the best of the welterweights or jr middleweights.

 

Yes, Tyson is a top 5 all time HW IMO & would rule today like he did in the 80s.

 

Jesus ****ing Christ is this a serious question? No white fighter in history could ever live with a prime tyson- the tyson that beat Botha beats these guys UP>

 

Tyson at his best could do what Lewis said he was going to do, have one brother for breakfast and another for lunch.
Wladimir absolutely bricks it when confronted with real aggression, hows he posibly going to cope with the most ferocious heavyweight of all time?

Vitali is awkward and really difficult to beat if youre too slow to get inside of him, hes very accurate and is tough.
But this is Mike Tyson, he'd have a longer nights work with Vitali, but Vitali would never handle Tysons quickness.
At best Vitali hears the final bell, but its a wide Tyson decision, more likely IMO, he gets pulled out by his corner having taken a real career ending hiding.

 

vitali was going to fight iron mike

except for that legend killer d Williams

he broke the dream

 

For the record, Tyson's prime was from 84-89, a solid 5 year reign of terror that may have went longer had he surrounded himself with a better crowd, trained more religiously, and kept himself out of trouble. People seem to forget all about Tyson's rise in the ranks and the celebrity that he garnered before ever holding a title to begin. He was in his prime during that time and held on to it only until his personal issues outside of the ring put out his fire, made him want to get away from all of it, and took away the hunger that had once driven him. He got sloppy in the ring, he quit training hard and got out of shape, and his indulgences outside the ring also took a toll on him.

It should also be noted that the Heavyweight division was sunk at the time of his reign as well. Holmes had dominated for a few years and was recognized as the true champion after beating Ali. Meanwhile guys like Michael Spinks, Pinklon Thomas, Trevor Berbick, Tony Tubbs, and Tim Witherspoon were holding the titles, men who weren't really considered to be great fighters like Ali and Frazier from the previous decade, or even Holmes for that matter. Tyson was a true diamond in the rough at the time and dominated much in the same way the Klitschko's have dominated today over what was considered a very weak heavyweight division. It didn't help that greats like Haggler, Hearns, Duran, and Leonard were all fighting each other in the lower weight divisions and putting on spectacular fights displaying skills that seemed completely absent from what had been the pinnacle of boxing, the heavyweight division.

With all that said, Mike Tyson would likely dominate today as he did then against MOST opponents in the division today. The Klitschko's on the other hand would serve as a great challenge for him. Tyson was never good against big, tall guys. In his prime he did dispose of a number of bigger tall guys like Pinklon Thomas, Tony Tucker, Bonecrusher Smith, Tyrell Biggs, Mitch Green etc... But these guys were bums who reaped the benefits of a weak heavyweight division and a few of them still gave him problems. Lets not forget that once Tyson had slipped from all the things that took their toll on him, it was a big tall fighter with long arms that upset him in Tokyo, Japan; Buster Douglas. You see, early on when he was very disciplined with his peek-a-boo defense and bob-and-weave offense he was able to make guys like that miss a lot, and his short stature helped that as they had to constantly swing downwards to hit him.

He still had problems with the size though. Notice that he HAD to knock most of those guys out too, he wasn't big on trying to go the distance with big guys like that. Mitch Green, James Tillis, Tony Tucker, and Bonecrusher Smith all took him the distance in his prime, and they were all bigger guys like the Klitschkos. There was a lot of doubt about Tyson's ability to go a full 10 or 12 rounds anyways since he didn't go past the 5th round until we was already 17-0, then his competition became greater and we saw him start HAVING to go the distance with these bigger guys who he simply couldn't dominate and knockout due to size and reach the way he dominated his competition on the way up. He had a string of nobodies he knocked out after his camp saw and discovered that he wasn't much of a thoroughbred. He fought Jesse Ferguson in his first nationally televised fight, fought a journeyman, then had two fights go the distance with Mitch Green and James Tillis, his next 6 or 7 fights were then against guys he could easily beat and they all ended early. The rest is history, but also look at the absolute beating Lennox Lewis put on him late in his career. That size of fighter was tailor made to beat him and I doubt that the part of the 90's he missed would have been any better for him in boxing with giants like Riddick Bowe and Shannon Briggs lurking around.

I think that a prime Tyson, a viscous Tyson, would have a very good chance of knocking out either Klitschko brother, but it would still be a really big challenge for him. They move pretty well on their feet and know how to use their size, unlike a lot of the guys he fought in the 80's who were trying and failing to emulate the light-footed style of Ali. I'd imagine they would tie him up a lot and that-that would frustrate him quite a bit as well. There's still no telling though, with a guy like him in his prime, all he needs is one clean crisp shot to end it. Mike was a real body snatcher in his day and that's how he got to a lot of those big guys. If he could get inside at all, and get to the body of either Klitschko I think they'd be dead on their feet in no time with the power he used to deliver there. Still, I just don't know if he would be able to get inside against those two. I'd like to imagine that he would with ease, but there is no guarantee and that's what would determine the outcome. No matter what, it would be a great series of fights between the three of them.

 

The way Wlad was holding Mormeck in their fight and all this talk about how Mormeck was like Tyson I couldnt help but imagine what Tyson would have done

I kept imagining Mormeck coming up with a sweet left hook and throwing punches when Wlad holds and cracking his chin ala sanders

Vitali - Tyson would be a ****ing war til Mike takes him out around the 8-10 rounds (more than likely via ref / Corner stoppage / cuts etc.)

then who is left? Tyson vs Tyson? **** it why not

 

Tell it like you see it bro.

 

I think that a 29-30 year old Mike Tyson rules over todays heavies. ALL of em...

 

Tyson wasn't really inside fighter in classic terms. He tactics were primarily to lunge, throw combinations while in range then rest in the clinch. Tyson was a relatively small fighter so his firing range wasn't that great that's why he had to lunge at taller opponents. The problem with lunging is that there is a distinct "take off" phase and "landing" phase that makes boxer a stationary target. Tyson was really fast on his feet so he could compensate for that but still Douglas exploited it and timed him masterfully. Vitali is a grand master when it comes to timing his opponents. Given size/reach difference he would have plenty of time to react to Tyson's moves and time him accordingly. Tyson would have a long brutal night against Vitali being stopped in late rounds primarily from exhaustion.