I believe Pacquiao was using PEDs - Boxing Expert

I thought he was using PED's for a long time. I could see no other reason he would not take stringent testing. After awhile I was so suspicious I said it would take him passing three stringent tests in a row for me to believe he's clean, that has happened and so I believe him to be clean and always had been. However, I do not feel bad for I how felt, and do not feel bad for the suspicion that clouds him. Taking stringent testing when asked should have always been the thing to do, and suspicion upon refusal goes hand in hand with that.

 

Pretty interesting stuff.

 

That was a waste of 7 minutes.

I personally doubt Pacquiao was on any more illegal PEDs than the majority of world class boxers. I also don't blame him for refusing to bow to all of Floyd's demands for extra testing that other boxers don't have to do.

 

pacman AND KHAN ?:rofl atschatsch

 

EPO doesn't increase size. That article you posted isn't scientific proof of anything. If anything, you're proving that Manny is more likely to use EPO than anything else to keep his edge as he ages.

Bone size, marrow content, red blood cell count, whatever you want to say.... Fact is, EPO will improve stamina by increasing the very thing (red blood cell count) you say gives Manny an advantage. You're putting MORE suspicion on him, not less. You can try to pass it off on Manny's physical traits and say he's a medical marvel, but that's a bunch of bull****. Manny Pacquiao is human just like the rest of us. Spare us.

Yea, Lance Armstrong was a medical marvel as well. Lance's "natural stamina" was just so unreal! :rofl

Reality: EVERYBODY in professional sports is suspect.

 

A I have read that one. Pacquiao's wrist size.. same size as mike tyson lol. More bone mass equates to more bone marrow and RBCs which means more oxygen supply.
Great stuff..

 

pac hasnt stopped anyone since cotto. im not saying he wasnt on them, most top fighters are

 

There's no reason it can't be down to his natural traits tbh.

 

Perhaps.

But fact remains all top athletes are suspect today. That includes Pacquiao and Mayweather. There is no "proof" in the article that was provided. And refusing a drug testing protocol back in 2010 certainly doesn't make Pacquiao look innocent. It's not an admission of guilt, nor does it prove guilt, but it certainly raises an eyebrow about what he was using during that time period.

The closest thing we'll get to proof is from the PED tests, and even those aren't for sure. Professional sports are dirty with PED users. Too much money involved for these athletes to turn down something that could give them that edge to make millions more. Nobody is above suspicion in my view.

 

That "study" does nothing to eliminate the possibility of PED use. A quantitative observational article based on wrist measurements and body type....wow, staggering evidence refuting any possibility of enhancement. Written by an unknown, and only available on a boxing site. While making some astute observations, it has little relevance regarding possible PED use by a pro athlete in a sport performance setting. Credibility is less than overwhelming. The quality would be destroyed in peer review. It amounts to an opinion piece based loosely on very basic "science".

 

pac was juiced to the gills coz he didn't want no part of a Floyd test :nut

Fl0m0s :rofl what a special bunch

 

:deal

 

It does. You just don't understand it. He is very direct on how it proves he wasn't using steroids.

 

Do you understand how hard it is to "prove" something scientifically? The article is not peer reviewed as stated above. It's an opinion based on loose science.

It falls well short of "scientific proof."

 

That's an awfully long post considering it has nothing to do with whether or not there is any proof that Manny has never taken PEDs. But whatever makes you happy.