I believe Pacquiao was using PEDs - Boxing Expert

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  1. juice20

    juice20 Active Member Full Member

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    Show me where it proves this. Also, show me where in this essay you posted it mentions PEDs. Show me where it goes beyond talking about height and wrist size and body types. Show me where there is a direct correlation made between these very basic body measurements and the use or non use of PEDs. Show me where it doesn't rely entirely on second hand "data" from unreliable sources, draw from an incredibly small sample size, and make observations based on what...film, google, boxrec.

    Read it. It summarizes the authors point in the last paragraph. Body structure is all he is really talking about and how it can provide an illusion of size in either direction. It is interesting in that regard, but it isn't anything a guy with a Kinesiology degree could simply intuit onto paper in a couple minutes, if it is even correct.

    And newsflash, it doesn't mention PEDs. Nor can anyone use this as a litmus test for proof either way of PED use in an athlete. Because, you know, athletes with large bone structure have never eeevvveeeerrrr used PEDs, and those with smaller bone structure most certainly do as they move up in weight....right?!

    The amount of proof that article provides for the unrelated tangent you took it on to try and absolve a fighter from speculation, suspicion and rumors of possible PED use.....absolutely zero.
     
  2. besty1985

    besty1985 Active Member Full Member

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    This.
     
  3. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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  4. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    :verysad
     
  5. Sunchild78

    Sunchild78 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Of course he was using peds. Pac has not KO no one since the Cotto fight. Ironically the fight right before the first negotiation. Then he walked away, came back nine months later, talking about he'll take the test. You would have to be a complete idiot or a serious Pac **** ryder, to belief this dude walked away because of a fear of damn needles or blood being drawn.
     
  6. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    I know he was using. Everyone knew then. But he wasn't undergoing testing so he got away with murder.
     
  7. igor_otsky

    igor_otsky Undefeated Full Member

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    he a murderer.
     
  8. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    They were able to mask his urine. You can't fool blood testing.
     
  9. abuffy

    abuffy Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Man, you should've been Mayweather's lawyer when Pacquiao took him to court. He may not of settled.
     
  10. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    You should've been in Pacs corner so you could've told him to tuck his damn chin against Marquez in fight IV lol...
     
  11. boyschoir

    boyschoir Boxing Addict Full Member

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    accurate response from a Fl0m0 :rofl

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgI5AEPaIn8

    Roger: "Pac will be KO'd by Rios coz he stopped using PED's" :rofl:rofl:rofl

    Mayweathers = Brady Bunch of the boxing world :rofl
     
  12. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol

    It's ironic because the absolute best testosterone test is via urine, the CIR test. It detects synthetic testosterone at teh atomic level. You cannot beat it. It doesn't care about T ratios like with the fail testing by USADA. You can drive a bus of syringes thru USADA testing, just ask JMM and Memo. Memo don't want nothing to do with VADA who use CIR as a primary test unlike USADA. Urine is also pretty damn good at epo detection too haha.


    http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2006/08/01/sports/02landis-graphic.html
     
  13. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not to say he was for sure on anything, but it wouldn't be steroids if he was using a PED.

    It would be EPO. Has nothing to do with testosterone.
     
  14. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Nah, not necessarily true because roids gives a lot too. For ex. the stage that that cyclists Floyd Landis was busted for. He cracked the day before losing over ten minutes. The next day he said f it, and slaps a few roid patches on. It was stage 17, the biggest mother of stages, the biggest climb that kills everyone but not Floyd. He blew everyone away on one day gained back all the time he lost and something like a 7 minute lead. Roid patches. They work... till you get busted.
     
  15. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    "The cream and the clear." Barry Bonds (LOL)

    I don't know though. If I was a professional boxer, I would think I'd want the increase in stamina more than anything else. And that's what EPO is great for.