I can't believe that some people

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Body Head, May 31, 2010.


  1. Body Head

    Body Head East Side Rape (CEO) Full Member

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    say that Oscar De La Hoya isn't an ATG......just ****en ridiculous.
     
  2. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    You must like worms or you wouldn't have opened up this big can of them just now.
     
  3. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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  4. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    People call all kinds of fighters that are great, but not really ALL-TIME greats, ATGs. It's pretty ridiculous. The rest is the term has less and less meaning.
     
  5. hoot

    hoot Active Member Full Member

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    well believe it. Because hes not. he lost most all of the biggest fights he was in.
     
  6. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    its cause he isnt. pretty simple
     
  7. igotJUIC3

    igotJUIC3 Boxing Junkie banned

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    Oscar lost too many big fights.
     
  8. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    meh, it's very debatable

    both mosley fights were close, could have gone either way, and shane was juicing

    tito - we all know what happened there ( i had ODLH ahead)

    hop - yeah, loss (his only KO loss)

    floyd - SD (although I think he straight up lost)

    pac - shouldn' have even been fighting, thus shouldn't really negatively affect his status



    now, i'm sure this thread will either die, or get ugly, so i'm out
     
  9. di tullio

    di tullio Guest

    oscar and RJJ probably will be remembered as greats in the future.
     
  10. TheBradyHawkes

    TheBradyHawkes ۞ Full Member

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    The fights with Mosley, and his complete throwaway of the Trinidad fight are the most debated of his losses. He clearly lost the first fight with Shane, and the second could have gone either way, IMO, although some of his cronies will tell you he won that by 3 rounds minimum. He was also gifted a decision against Sturm, which he clearly lost.

    The Trinidad debacle was unforgivable. Those fights aside, who were his best wins? Vargas, Quartay and a past prime Whitaker? Hardly the stuff of ATG's.
     
  11. caneman

    caneman 100% AllNatural Xylocaine Full Member

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    It depends on how you mean ATG. Top 10 ATG or Top 100 ATG? Oscar is an ATG.

    For comparison:

    Sugar Ray Robinson:
    Wins: 175
    Losses: 19
    Draws: 6
    Win %: 87.5

    Oscar De La Hoya:
    Wins: 39
    Losses: 6
    Draws: 0
    Win %: 86.7

    Say what you want but Oscar fought alot of great fighters and all but 2 losses could have gone either way in judges scorecards. 6 titles in 6 weight divisions (5 recognized titles), 1992 Olympic Gold medalist. What more do you need?
     
  12. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    guy nailed it and 1st to 6 in 6