I could see people bashing GGG's victories over the likes of Lemieux, Lee and Canelo

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  1. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    115-107 is almost beating Quillin :lol:. I'm not underrating HAssan at all, instead of going back and forth on opinions that we won't change, let's just put money on it. If Cotto/Canelo fights any top MW not named GGG I'll bet you any amount you want up to 500.
     
  2. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Then I'll just take it as you're not confident in what you say :good.
     
  3. Xelloss

    Xelloss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    160 is not the "best" division, but the problem here is I could write up something equally as plausible and accurate about pretty much any division as you did about 160.

    Now that Froch is gone, at 168 there is only Ward. Literally only Ward, Dirrells are Macklin and Geale level at best in terms of skill and accomplishments - I call DeGale DeGeale for a reason, he will have his moments but hes not a threat to anyone whos actually top shelf eevn though he is a respectable boxer. If you drained him to 164 a good many MWs would KO him.

    At 154 Lara is massively overrated, Cotto HAS to have major asterisks by every win*. One asterisk is one thing, Cotto hasn't won a fight over a B-level or better guy without one in many many years.

    147 is decent, better than 160 but after Floyd you could still spend all day picking apart most of the top10 and pointing out glaring limitations

    You can spend all day dumping on pretty much any division if you are of a mind.
     
  4. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Of course you can, but those divisons dont have guys like Jacobs, Eubank Jr, Heiland etc, all ranked extremely high in the top 10. They also don't have a Peter Quillin that was ranked right below Golovkin, or a Lee who lost to Chavez Jr, and Vera ranked that highly.
     
  5. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    No its just too much of a pain in the ass to send the money or any of that other stuff. I couldn't be bother enough.
     
  6. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ever heard of paypal? You simply connect your credit card to it takes 1 minute max, and then you write the other persons email and put in the specific amount you owe. It takes a total of 2 mins :good.
     
  7. moparfan

    moparfan ESB's glass jawed fraud Full Member

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    It may possibly be the Beer talking, but CST, I will cover your bet with Ellerbe...!!!


    But I get 10% of the winnings in either forms of:

    A). Money
    B). Hot Wings
    C). Beer
    D). Hot Wings
     
  8. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Too much effort.:D
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Nah that wouldn't be fair to you dude.
     
  10. moparfan

    moparfan ESB's glass jawed fraud Full Member

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    If you stayed in Kirk's league, you would have known that Bustajay tried to bet on Paypal to win via UD...!!!


    Ya know quitters never win, and winners never quit...



    But my mom, the hypocritical broad, told me to quit while I was ahead...!!!
     
  11. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Sorry, dont trust you either. Whether I'm getting along with CST recently or not, if we make a money bet, I'll trust him with it for sure, and if he ****s me over I'll blame myself. I'm rarely wrong on who I can trsut with money.
     
  12. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    why didnt you guys bet then?
     
  13. moparfan

    moparfan ESB's glass jawed fraud Full Member

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    Its FREE Hot Wings...:sad2















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    Free God Damn It...!!!
     
  14. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'll take the free hot wings, you need to cut down on them you whale.
     
  15. Xelloss

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    Just off the top of my head Mohammadi was ranked at 175 :conf

    Vera used to be better, Lee lost a long time ago and Jr was both putting in more effort and outweighed him by an insane amount.

    By the way you appear to judge things, the only fight of significance GGG could fight is Ward. While that is certainly the most historically significant single fight, its still just one fight.

    I try not to view things through the ATG lens anyhow, because our view of the history is rose tinted - tons of junk, ok, decent, and good fights happened amongst the handful of historical bouts that stick in our minds. Its not fair to try and judge everything against those, else we will constantly be in a state of disappointment.

    Lemieux is athletically prime, motivated, a genuine devastating puncher, and much improved over the fighter who lost to Rubio. He is a dangerous fight for anyone at 160. No, not ATG type stuff as far as anyone knows but that shouldn't be the metric.