I couldn't care less which fighters take PEDs

First of all, there is no 'them.'

We're talking about ONE individual.

Secondly, as to Manny needing the fight more, I don't agree.

Mayweather had a crack at making top 10 all-time, p4p.

He needed a number of things for that to happen, principally, a victory over Pac.

This would have been the career defining win for him on the heels of Pac-Cotto.
The irony here is, had he not feared "the little midget" he probably would have beaten him, as Floyd is the superior boxer.

So for legacy reasons, Floyd needed the fight more.

Not only does the absence of Pac on Floyd's resume detract from his greatness, but the fairly obvious manner in which he showed his misgivings puts another hole in it.



Money wise, Floyd needed it much more as well. Manny earns his money in the US and soon China, in US dollars, just like Floyd.


But Manny spends most of his in the Philippines where its worth much more than in the US.

Thus, he has way more spending power than Floyd.


In short, Floyd's ducking of Pac will haunt his career and his legacy.

 

Clean boxing is impossible. Even more rigged and unfair one is right behind the door you're pointing at.

 

Don't get your knickers in a knot here, Kirk.

You sound ridiculous.

Threads take aon a life of their own and rarely does one not diverge with digression.

Besides, JG, the threadstarter in this instance, made an explicit reference to his take on the Pac-Floyd issue.

I agreed with him as he said what I've been saying for years.

And then you took issue with my post.

And I explicated my position further.

Why would that get you all out of sorts ?

Yes, and that's what happened here.

And my point is, most in the boxing business can draw their conclusions from that series of events.

The size of the payday is totally irrelevant, a red herring constantly brought up by folks who miss the main point here. Both men would have made record paydays.

Point is, one opponent should not , as JG stated, try to dictate to the other opponent regarding tests that the boxing authorities have not required and that hithertofore, have not been an issue.

To all but a complete idiot, Floyd's timing with his effort to 'clean up the sport' is a clear indicator that he feared THIS opponent, not any other that he faced previously.




Final point:

Your sig ?

 

I do not give a damn who juices either. Any of you in the same situation would do the same thing. The only problem is that some fighters have access to better guru's that oversee the preparatory process. While some can take whatever they want, whenever they want and their test results will be ignored.....Erm Floyd!!!

 

i wouldnt. there may be other shameful things i would do that you may not, but cheating in a test of superiority is something that would make it meaningless for me. i may change my mind if that type of money was involved, but neither i nor you would really know until then.

 

If the man across from you was doing it, so would you. Unless, of course, you are that RARE exception.

I can speak for myself because I do know because I have.

 

You'd probably get ruined to retirement by better conditioned fighters before your first good payday. Then you'd get to do those other shameful things to feed your family before entering to prison system.

 

Agreed. People are looking at this issue in a totally flawed way. They are simply parotting the talking points of the powers that be, like mindless sheep. In reality, PEDS are the great equalizer of the genetic lottery, which makes a few individuals better over others simply on the basis of inheritance and birth mutations. Peds are as democratic as the ingestion of quality proteins to make poorer children less malnourished and better prepared to learn and work. Why in the world should I care if athletes take what is readily available and within all their financial means. These superstars are well supervised medically and PEDS can be managed successfully under medical guidance for the long term, of that you can be certain. This is even more the case with the new breed of PEDS which put less strain on the organs. Only nosey celebrity gossip type fans care about PEDS. Enlightened people with some ability to reason could care less. But anyway, cue the predictable "oh my god, think of our children" response.

 

:yep nice word. I had to look it up, but it's perfect

 

he gets his answer and responds with

 

a little short of choices in our life, have we?