I couldn't care less which fighters take PEDs

Great post!

Just look at the laundry list of washer women on this thread crying from their collective soapbox.

:crybaby "Our hewoes are on stewoids"

This site is full of whiney bitches who forcefeed everyone their PC indoctrinated opinions and inturn snitch on anyone who questions their stupidity.

 

You did not know what a "sycophant" was


Just how stupid are you?atsch

WAIT! Do not answer that, I have had the misfortune of reading your posts on a few occasions.

 

Lol hardly an equalizer when not all fighters can afford PEDs or medically trained staff who can over see that it is done correctly.

Genetic lottery, duh, that's what we are trying to see. Who is the best.

 

You argument is like saying I could care less which fighters get gift decisions.

 

Buddy, if my ******ed friend the security guard working in some farted out 5x5 shack can afford cycles of multiple roids plus the extra gear to keep him from growing ***** tits and blue balls, any pro athlete can do so as well. We're talking about a few hundred dollars per a good quality cycle, nothing else. Plus you don't require any medical staff. One measly GP looking at an occasional blood test will suffice most of the time.

 

I'm good with numbers not words. I bet if you ask 10 people, at most 3 would know what it means and that's me being generous.


and I don't post on this site seriously anymore ever since they let it go to ****. I come here to troll and to see any news

 

Sorry, but those instances are not equivalent. One is an example of incompetence or corruption and the other of levelling the playing field. Not everything can be black and white, so not everything can be easily classified as "cheating" especially not when virtually every athlete has the possibility to do so without even being detected. Perhaps this article, by philosopher Peter Singer, might clarify the arguments in favour of allowing of PEDs into all of pro sports: http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/is-doping-wrong-

Here's a small excerpt:

At the elite level, the difference between being a champion and an also-ran is so miniscule, and yet matters so much, that athletes are pressured to do whatever they can to gain the slightest edge over their competitors. It is reasonable to suspect that gold medals now go not to those who are drug-free, but to those who most successfully refine their drug use for maximum enhancement without detection.
Read more at http://www.project-syndicate.org/commentary/is-doping-wrong-#bGWorHJDFwgS4fUL.99

 

Look buddy, I worked in drug testing and clinical trials and I used to train in boxing. Boxing is a skill sport for the most part so most boxers that I've known are not in the PEDs thing. Not saying it's not out there, but most I've know here in California won't mess with them because they think it will screw with their bodies. I've also known some champs and some journeymen. Most journeymen can hardly afford paying their bills, they are not going to waste their money on PEDs. Also just about every boxer I've known doesn't have and education on biology so would hardly know how to do it correctly.

When I worked clinical trials there are a lot more duds in medicine than winners. Especially with the talk around new undetectable drugs it's not that fast or that simple. New drugs are generally trying to replicate something found in the body or nature and do it better and more efficiently. They take many years to develop and are suppose to go through animal trials. Even when you get to human testing, there was one drug we were testing and it turned out to cause cancer. Some of the processes that the drugs are suppose to improve upon are sometimes better from the natural elements we are trying to replicate. Many natural foods not only can do the process we are trying to replicate but contain extra enzymes that work together to improve the process. So while some PEDs may improve specific things, natural food in general is going to be healthier and better for your whole system.

Now I'm not necessarily suggesting a ban. I don't know what the answer is. But I would think if PEDs were allowed in the sport, the emphasis should be on safety, drugs that have been tested over the lifespan and equally distributed for everyone. But then again some cheats will try and get away with something else, so who knows.

 

I've read such articles. The author doesn't know much about the economics behind the already unequal playing field. Corporations spend billions on products like shoes, snow skies, swim suits, so their sponsored athletes will be the ones winning by a 1/10 of second. It's not much different than PEDs. You can no longer tell who is inherently better, you are just testing who has the better technology or drugs.

It makes it an unequal playing field because not anyone is going to be able to break into becoming one of the top athletes without already having those connections. Athletes in today's world have to be born in the right family with the right money with the right connections. It hardly gives the honest working man a chance of breaking into the field.

 

Thats what Pacquiao should have told Mayweather from the beggining, but instead he came out with a list of excuses that exposed that he was really a PED user.

From the very moment Mayweather wanted to force PED tests, the best thing Pacquiao could have done if he did'nt want the testing was to say, "i'll test for PED's when the commision tells me, not when you tell me."



Dont have your stance on this issue of PED's John. Every commision should update their testing standards for fighters making over a certain ammount of money in their fight purses.

Combat sports are brutal enough to allow a fighter to PED up and punch stronger and do it for longer periods during a fight as a result of PED's.

I'm somewhat suprised at you stance John, are you Pacquiao's
supply'er??

 

Im not going to read the thread so apologies if someone has made this point, but with this attitude you force all boxers to take drugs. Is that what you want from boxing?

 

:huh

 

All boxers already do use drugs. Some are "ok" to use, some aren't but the modern athletes are pushing their bodies to extreme limits that require them to introduce doctors, nutritionists and strength & conditioning coaches. All of which study sports medicine or exercise science as it relates to their role. Some athletes even introduce holistic medicines that are organic or from "the earth". It's not banned therefore it's "ok".

 

Well I'd bet good money that Mayweather is on them as well as Pacquiao.

 

In my eyes they are clean until otherwise proven. Neither are or have been linked to drugs unless you count the **** Floyd injects for his hands, which are "ok" in Vegas.

The burden of proof is on the accuser, not the accused...therefore if I "suspect" someone is using something that is NOT "ok" it's really not proof. It's a feeling or an assumption.

Let the "truth" come out as it always does. ......otherwise let's just shut the **** up and let them fight and hopefully they'll do the same.