I couldn't care less which fighters take PEDs

It goes to show the Pacquiao has a bunch of **** advisors/hangers on in his camp.
Many of them contributed with the excuse making that got out of hand.

What the hell's job is Michael Koncz? Is'nt he Pacquiao's personal advisor?

Even a semi-good advisor would have coordinated the whole camp to strategize so everyone could be on the same page as to how team Pacquiao would go about handling the situation of Mayweather demanding PED testing.

The first thing that actually happened when it was heard Mayweather was asking for PED tests was Freddie Roach laughing and stating something to the effect that his fighter will pass any test in the world "no problem."
Roach saying that hit youtube and boxing forums bigtime.

Roach himself should have called up Pacquiao and Koncz to see if they were ok or not ok with testing before opening his big mouth.

That whole Pacquiao camp acted like a bunch of goons with everything to hide. Just pathetic!

 

Yeah instead he lied and kept contradicting himself. Hmmm.

 

Did you go to the same school as those other idiots Loudon, and Mind Reader?
I can just picture the Ancient Greeks in their streamlined swimsuits, and carrying their fibre glass vaulting poles.:roll::roll:

 

Maybe we should have two divisions for each weight, all natural and juiced unlimited.

 

I'll start caring about the issue of cheating when things such as genetic doping become common place, until then taking 'PEDs' is probably less beneficial than taking a protein shake or having a coffee. WADA is a joke of an organisation, the majority of the substances on the banned list have zero scientific evidence that they'll harm or help performance.

 

Pro sport is just business.

 

You live in cloud cuckoo land. Paci-OW has to borrow money from Arum, because he is getting ripped off by him.

Mayweather is a far wealthier man, due to the contracts he negotiates. He gets percentages of every aspect of the event when he fights.

 

Sorry that's absolute rubbish. There's numerous scientific studies that show that EPO, steroids and HGH improve performance significantly, alternatively theres is mixed evidence as to whether caffeine and protein shakes do. Type EPO into google scholar to look for scientific studies on its performance enhancing abilities.

 

And then consider the design of the studies, and their relevance to the sport of boxing. HGH has even been shown to be detrimental for performance, have you seen that research? Caffeine and whey protein are by FAR more proven to enhance recovery/performance than any PED.

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2012/12/06/3649102.htm

And talk to me about the VO2max of boxers... 55-65 ml/kg/min...... Tell me exactly why they'd waste their time taking EPO when they're not elite endurance athletes, or need to be? They aren't elite strength athletes either, and they have weight classes. A little critical thinking goes a long way.

 

Pacquiao gives 28% off the top of the gross to Arum. This is in addition to Arum fronting him money that has an interest rate attached to it. Mayweather on the other hand only gives Golden Boy 5% of the gross and isn't borrowing money left and right from them either. It is obvious who has the better deal.

 

ok, since you couldn't be bothered to research actual scientific studies rather than a newspaper report i've done it for you:

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several scientific studies all showing that EPO improves performance and v02 max.


No, boxers are not elite specialist strength or endurance athletes, they tend to be a combination of both:

if you read the study at the top of this link,
http://scholar.google.co.uk/scholar?q=boxing+physiology&hl=en&as_sdt=0,5
it will explain what the physiological determinents of a successful boxer are: physical fitness as indicated
by individual anaerobic threshold and maximal oxygen
consumption, and upper-body muscular strength as indicated
by hand-grip strength.

EPO has been scientifically proven to improve V02 at the anaerobic threshold and V02 max significantly, and would therefore improve performance.

Lastly, im not sure why you keep bringing up whey protein and caffeine, what are you comparing them to? If your comparing them to the efficiency over performance enhancing drugs (the clue is in the name), then i'd like you to show me a study where they have been directly compared. Any individual study i've seen quoting figures of improvement for both, the PED's blow them out of the water.

Kevin tipton - world expert in protein metabolism/supplementation: "protein shakes do not have any added benefit over milk" http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23765357