I did some reaserach on Margarito and i think we all underestimated him...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Osiris2k, Jul 31, 2008.


  1. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Very impressive performance by Margarito indeed. I feel that not many people appreciate what he actually did to beat Cotto. It started from round 1. He was very disciplined at working the body very effectively.

    I never took Margarito's losses for more than a grain of salt. The undefeated record is way to over hyped these days.

    I knew his losses came at a young an experienced age. I rated Margarito based on his recent performance. I would say Margarito's weakness is he starts slow, otherwise he beat and probably KO Williams. Williams was the better man that night, but Margarito has proven to be the better fighter.
     
  2. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Margarito has fought at 147 for over a decade. he had no problem making weight. He has never been wobbled as a result of weight draining, and has never looked overtrained or dehydrated. margarito looks and fights like a natural 147. He is tall, yes, but he is not big like Santos or Trinidad who had a very difficult time making 147.
     
  3. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bottom line is Jones and Dixon had no amateur background and started fighting as adults. Margo had amatuer fights and started fighting as a little tike. By your thinking that would mean that a man should be able to go in the ring because he is a full grown man with little or no boxing background and beat a 18 or 19 year old that has boxing for 12 years.

    Now Im not say that those guys didnt have an advantage, what Im saying is that it was an equal fight do to the fact that Margo had more ring experience...And only Dixon was unbeatten, Jones had 2 or 3 loses I think when he fought Margo. Another point is that Jones for sure would have been a tough fight for Margo at any point up until about two years ago, and would have likely beatten him at any point during that time from when they fought til 2006.

    Not really to make excuses for Floyd but his hands were messed up in the first fight with Castillo, and what people tend to forget is that Castillo didnt win a single round until after Floyd hurt his hand, and that Floyd beat him EASY in the rematch. As far as not keeping Margo off of him because he doent have any power, he has defence, and Cotto doesnt, Margo would miss a sh*tload of shots like he did vs Clottey. Barring Floyd banging up his hands Margo wouldnt win that fight between the two.

    As far as hurting or not being able to hurt Margo...I recall Hatton fans saying the same things leading into that fight:good
     
  4. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    Margarito didn't have more amateur experience than Jones or Dixon.

    Jones had 35 fights (31W-4L). He also won the 1991 California State Golden Gloves at 156 pounds. He had been involved in boxing since he was 18 years old (1986).

    Dixon I haven't dug up yet, but I know he had a lot more amateur experience. I looked it up before but haven't been successful finding his bio on google.

    Margarito had a record of 18-3. And I know the story is that he used to go to the gym as a little boy. He started officially at 8 I believe (1986). And by the time he turned 16 he had his amateur record complete and turned professional.

    The experience comparison between Margarito and Jones, from the start of their official boxing training was exact - 10 years when they met in the ring. The only difference was Tony started as a boy 8 match 18 and Jones started as a young man 18 match 28.

    Obviously an 18 year old is going to catch on faster than an 8 year old. Just think about that.

    One other point about Jones is that he was athletic. He played football in highschool. That leads to another interesting tidbit about Margarito. Margarito was not considered very athletic and he didn't take to sports other than boxing as a boy.

    I don't doubt the validity of Mayweather's hand problems. Infact I see that as a big advantage for the iron chinned Margarito.

    The problem with Clottey is the shell guard. Nobody lands at a high rate against him. Cotto's split guard leaves him more vunerable and so that explains itself. I've been over this before too. Mayweather's half guard is also a good way to block punches but it also requires alot of head movement. And rolling with shots. If Margarito gets Mayweather on the ropes and drills home hard bodyshots the upperbody movement won't matter. You simply cannot roll with body shots. Against Margarito, the shell guard is greater than the half guard.

    Hatton was shaken by Collazo, prior to the Mayweather fight. He was also dropped by Eamon Magee, by all things I believe a left. As well as another incident that escapes me at the moment.
     
  5. jaycuban

    jaycuban Cubans Do It Better ! Full Member

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    Ive always felt this way about margos record, and i felt really anoyed when he was fightin cotto right before the fight how stupid boxing fan were judging me for picking a guy with 5 looses to beat and undafeated guy.