I do not like Tyson Fury, when he goes bye bye that will be a good day for boxing.

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Amer Abdallah wasn't really involved in the earlier negotiations, but from what he did say it was heavily implied that some of the demands of Fury's side weren't workable. Also, I noticed that Warren is now saying February 2024 at the earliest, which isn't a good sign. Usyk will likely have to fight Hrgovic next, as the IBF are unlikely to delay again under these circumstances.

Btw, I meant to mention the other day, I read it reported that only Warren and Usyk's team actually bid for Dubois fight. I recall our discussion turned to why smaller bids were getting made. It was earlier reported by the WBA that they were expecting multiple bids. And there was some expectation on Krassyuk's part that Warren might be making multiple bids through proxy. Apparently, this happens quite regularly (though I wouldn't really know). Even so, it was reported in Boxing Social, that there were only two bids on the day.

 

February 2024 will turn into April, and before we know it another year will of sadly passed by. I am adamant that we would of had undisputed by now if it wasnt for the Saudi rumours. They've ruined the HW landscape this year.

https://boxing-social.com/news/usyk-dubois-purse-bid-to-go-ahead/

Yep, it does appear that although third party bids were expected (see boxing social link), only the two promotor bids landed in the end (multiple sources confirm your stance on this as Im sure your aware). I'm not especially suprised that the fight didnt get the extra attention though, personally I think that if Usyk sees his full promised 6m, the fight will lose overall. But that doesnt matter now with Skills Challenge in the background picking up the pieces.

Get Dubois out of the way and we go again. This time with Usyk having the financial backing to push Fury into a corner.

 

Funny you should say that about Usyk taking less. TalkSport said something very similar:

"Therefore, he will receive $6,042,750 (£4,891,425) - unless he agreed a deal in advance with his promoter Krassyuk to take a lower sum in order to allow them to bid higher and win the purse bids."
Oleksandr Usyk's team win Daniel Dubois purse bids with huge $8million bid and plan to stage fight in Poland | talkSPORT

What I find interesting about that, is TalkSport being so closely associated with Queensberry/Warren, may well have made that statement based on how Warren structures his own bids.

 

Yeh exactly my thoughts, we all remeber that silly Fury Whyte mando bid , no way was Fury paid in full back then.
It's likely K2 did something similar as TalkSport allude to, but could just be based on Warrens thoughts (and principles).

 

Yeah surely it's Saudi fault, that Fury outpriced himself out of the Undisputed fight. Same Abdullah say this, before he was brutally interupted by Fury personal cheerleader Gareth A. Davies.
Fury was offered career high payday of 60m., but he wanted more than the entire pot would have been.
Usyk agreed to the deal.
Fury ducked the fight. You can try to spin it, whatever you like, that's the fact, and that's the fact why so many people turned their back on Fury and everyone make a mockery of him and his fans.
The 70-30 Wembley spit was the biggest duck in the history of Boxing.

And then the Fraud wasted a whole year, and it's making a mockery of the HW division, and going to fight in exhibition against no-boxer.
Surely it's Usyk fault as well.
Just like Fury wanted a warm up, when Whyte and AJ was ready to step-aside, with a payment not going from the both fighter purse, but Saudi was willing to pay for the step-aside.

Somehow it's always Fury, but some of his deluded fanboys just decide to reject reality, and twist every single thing they possible can.

Fury is either trying to age Usyk out, and yeah for a big surprise 2 year is a huge time in Boxing, especially when the one is hitting 37 years old soon.
And everyone who knows Boxing, which should be a basic thing to understand that Usyk physical attributes, like footwork, speed, reflexes, cardio, punch output, etc. are going to suffer greatly due to age.

When Fury is just grab hold fighter nowadays.
Yet he still shat his pants everytime he heard Usyk name.

And btw Usyk is already signed for the Saudi fight, the one that is talking nonsenses again is Team Fury.

Just like he was training for the Wembley fight, right? He was in a camp, right? Before he get exposed so badly.

AJ say it perfectly today.
I'm not going to waste my time with time wasters, that was supposedly training, yet they haven't.

 

Tyson Fury own dad, when the Saudi fight falls out in the beginning of the year:

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“That’s what the delay is with Tyson – they won’t pay him what he’s worth. They want him for nothing. They want to make the money, they want the lions share and to give Tyson the small end.”

“But that ain’t going to wash with us. It’s the Fury’s way, or the highway, we bow down to no one. We are the kings of the ring at the minute.”

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Let's not forget Fury was offered literally everything, and he still rejected anything.

Here is where Mike, who was one of the first who reported back in the day that Usyk agreed the deal with the Saudi, and Fury ducked the fight, as he was promising too many things to too many people, and literally outpricing himself out of the fight.

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Whether it's in a winning or losing effort, he simply needs to fight Usyk at this point. Given how even the most diehard of Fury fans would now admit to feeling just as sour as the rest of us have felt for sometime, redemption via fighting Usyk is more or less the only hope Fury has of being remembered in a positive light a decade or two from now.

 

Nah, he just needs a few fights imo.

 

We still have a handful of people even here on the forum who think Fury didn’t duck or better yet, that Usyk ducked him, lol. Don’t underestimate human stupidity - it’s infinite indeed.

 

Fury's inability to ever act like a grownup is very tiresome. Everything he does outside of the ring for attention is just so lame and the constant childish namecalling is just so beyond juvenile I could just never have any interest in him as a fighter. He is a solid boxer though.

 

|Agree with all this except ''I used to find him funny and amusing''

 

A few quality fights, yes.

 

Until Fury has a Leonard-Norris/Camacho moment, he's never going to leave boxing

He's addicted to the limelight

Is it possible Fury beats Ngannou AND Dubois beats Usyk AND there's no rematch clause between Dubois and Usyk AND Fury beats Dubois AND Fury wins his fights against Wayne Rooney, Ronnie O'Sullivan and Phil Heath AND Fury can keep dipping into professional boxing well into his 40s and stay winning?

Yeah, this nightmare scenario is possible

But it's not very likely

Eventually the wheels are going to fall off this wagon