I dont belive pac is on roids, and the m'weather camp can f off but ...

"Keith Kizer, the executive director of the Nevada Athletic Commission, has been authorized to offer the services of the Nevada Commission to step in and to do all of the prefight drug-testing if the two fighters agree," said Arum.

"We would sit down with Mayweather's side and say, 'Here's what we're prepared to do with the Nevada Commission.' And then, the other side would sit down and say what they would be prepared to do," said Arum. "And then, the commission would then take it from there, and hold random urinalysis and random blood tests."

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This bull**** about Manny being afraid of needles is just that.. bull****. That came out of a comment from Bob Arum, who said something to the effect that "Manny has a phobia of getting his blood drawn." Well the phobia has been made pretty ****ing clear by now which is that he doesn't want his blood taken close to a fight because he feels that it weakens him.

 

blood test before fight=blood test after fight.

on the other hand, if i were to fight someone 20 lbs. lighter than me, i would never care what his diet is. i'll see to it he never makes the same mistake again. but if i'm scared...well? can probably request for a blood test?

 

Your anger shows through your reasoning.

No they are not the best, read and research. There are othyer agencies well ahead technologically and academically. These drugs change every day and there must be new tests adapted every day.

The problem was the NSAC firm stance on blood tests being random up into the day of the fight. They won't change their stance for no one and that includes Pac or Mayweather. I hope that's not too hard to understand, but it was the dealbreaker.

 

How is it a desperate excuse when he's offered to give his blood RIGHT AFTER FIGHT, IN THE LOCKER ROOM.

Again, what the **** is going to be in your system 1-3 days prior, that won't be there after the fight?

 

All of your quotes are from Arum himself. How about some verification from an NSAC spokesman or something a bit more credible? If they're actually willing to have random testing done, why not simply use the much more reliable USADA testing methods to be sure, under the same agreements? Again, something is fishy here.

 

The first offer was to take it to an outside agency that tests other sports such as baseball or football. That was turned down as well as a few other attempts. the main problem with the Olympic testing was there firm stance on testing. They won't change for anyone and that includes possible testing on fight day.

 

False.

 

From today:

It appears the Floyd Mayweather Camp is open to a compromise on their demand of random blood testing. “As long as there’s a blood test, as long as there’s a urine test and as long as it’s random, a cutoff date is agreeable to us,” Mayweather’s representative Richard Schaefer of Golden Boy Promotions told the LA Times Saturday. Meanwhile, Pacquiao wrote on his blog “I am still willing to Fight Floyd Mayweather Jr. I never said the fight was off or I do not want to fight him. I will fight anyone at anytime and my record and past fights prove that. I have never and will never dodge anyone. These are my specifications for this fight regarding blood testing. I have offered to give a blood sample the day of the announcement of the fight at the press [conference]. I have offered to give a blood sample 30 days before the fight. I am willing to give blood immediately after the fight is over inside my dressing room . I am also willing to give urine tests at anytime any where everyday leading up to the fight. The truth is taking blood out of my body does not seem natural to me and mentally I feel it will weaken me if blood is taken from me just days before the fight. That does not make sense to me why anyone would do that.”


So Pac's blood test is THIRTY days before, and day after... What happened to 3, 5, and 7 days before?

 

You can't be serious? This has been answered unequivocally with reliable evidence and verifiable sources. Go back and review earlier threads to refresh your convenient amnesia.

 

NSAC said they would hold a meeting on January 19 and determine whether random blood testing would be used.

Arum also requested to have other agencies handle the random testing, which Floyd's camp refused.

They don't want the USADA because they are too inflexible. USADA would, accoridng to Arum, test all the way up to the day of the fight, anytime they wanted.

 

So Manny's plan is to dope up 2-3 days before the fight, and come clean afterwords? Is that what your suggesting?

 

So if they're truly happy with the testing, the only issue is that they don't want it close to the fight?

So in reality, this fight will fall through because Manny thinks that a blood test close the fight will affect him mentally and physically?

Do you know how bull**** that sounds.

Nonetheless, Manny has said (today) that he offered THIRTY days before the fight. Not a few days before.

 

I think this came after the refusal to change to an gaency that would give them a window before fight night. You do know urine is as reliable or more so than blood when done properly. urine can detect everything blood can even more. It relies on the person giving the tests their knowledge and knowing what to look for. He said they could get all the **** all they want.

 

My "anger"? Anytime nonsense is refutted with logic *******s hurl unfounded rhetoric.

You know what, when I applied for a job with the state I knew in advance I must undergo several drug test. I didn't like it but I took it. I took the test because 1. I wanted the job and 2. I knew I was clean.

Do you know what people do when they don't want to submit to a drug test? They stall or they don't take the test at all. Why? Answer that if you will.

When people want something in life they must adhere to certain prerequisites. They may not like it but they follow through if they desire to advance. I guess Manny really doesn't want this fight otherwise he would have no problem submitting to ANY drug test ANY DAY of the week. :yep

 

Since when are pro boxers under the obligation of random blood testing from the USADA?

Pacquaio isn't under any obligation to give ANY BLOOD. He's passed every drug test that has been required of him in his career.

Don't forget that's Mayweather trying to bend the rules not Pacquaio.