I dont care what anyone says.....James Toney is better and would beat .......

I aint exactly a JC fan. But it is pretty easy to point out that Toney has several losses over his career, and JC has none.

I mean, Thadzi?

 

What, you mean in a go-kart race? :huh

 

Toney has also fought the much greater opponents, hence the more losses. If Calzaghe had fought Jones, I'd be almost positive his record would be 4...whatever...-1

Have you seen the Thadzi fight? Pretty damn close, in a period of Toney's career where he wasn't exactly considered elite

 

I'd like to agree, but?? Toneys performances were too inconsistent. I vomited when he did what little he did vs RJJ.

Unfortunately?? JT has a serious history of underperforming in BIG EVENTS, JC would be a big event.

Toney had one of the best Defenses in many years but always let conditioning and lack of volume bring him down.

As sick as it makes me to say it?? Calzaghe probably outworks him like RJJ did:-( :-( :-(

 

50/50 fight in which I would pick Calzaghe to win

Here is my analysis from a different thread

Toney-Calzaghe is a very interesting matchup. First off, Toney was such a crafty fighter who knew every trick in the book, could stand in one place and make you miss/pay, and he could throw every punch in the book as well. His straight right hand counter could spell trouble for Calzaghe as that is the punch he is most vulnerable to. And Calzaghe would leave himself open for some great Toney counters. Toney would most certainly not be getting stopped by Calzaghe either.

However, Calzaghe may just have the style to beat Toney at 168. Calzaghe's workrate, hand speed, and footwork would cause Toney problems. Toney is the greater fighter, the better counter puncher, the craftier fighter, has the better chin, the better jab, and was the better defensive fighter, but I believe Calzaghe has all the tools to win a close decision over Toney. I think he would keep Toney off balance with his feints and movements, work his way inside, fire off quick punches, and move right back out of range. Calzaghe would be the one staying busier and throwing more punches. Let's not forget the awkward angles and punches Calzaghe give and throws. Calzaghe is no slouch on the inside either - he's a truly dynamic fighter. Additionally, I also think Calzaghe has the chin and toughness to survive a late Toney onslaught.

Toney was best against slower, come forward guys, but against Calzaghe, I see him having trouble getting set to counter. Toney had an excellent, shot-gun jab, but Joe's a southpaw, so I doubt he would be able to effectively establish it.

Joe Calzaghe by unanimous decision

 

You never know, even though I do favor JT as well.

 

JC is a very good SMW and has fast hands and high volume.

A lethargic JT and.....It's an L!!

It gives me no pleasure to say that, as I said JT's defense and ability is incredible, yet he fell short and underperformed too often.

 

JT is good in there with big sluggers.. and people who press the fight with big shots .. you get a guy in there with fast hands and in and out tricky movements ..
toney has trouble getting set ....

i dont see toney out working any one with tons of speed and **** ..

 

James Toney is the better boxer in my opinion, at least he fought the best in all 5 divisions. Anybody good that Calazaghe fought were either out of there prime or never really had one. If Toney fought Calazaghe the night he fought Barkley, he would of took JTs head off.

 

I mean JC would get knocked out.

 

Ok... I'll buy the night of Barkley, but any other night??

IT's Calzaghe.

I've got mad respect for Toney, I've wished many times that he could be more consistent.