I don't think Floyd beats this Canelo Nearly as easily. These Canelo's are so different.

Someone please tell me what Canelo's greatest performance against elite comp was. He looked like a killer against James Kirkland, but that's about it.

People really think this plodding, half a gas tank 5'7" guy is some ATG at 168?

LMAO

Benavidez is salivating like Pavlov's dogs to get his hands on him and everyone knows it.

 

If Mayweather was so skilled p4p he could have tried his hand at outboxing the big men at 160 and 168. Then again at those weights he'd actually be at a height disadvantage and lose his reach advantage he always enjoyed. After all it's much harder to outbox significantly bigger men compared to shorter men

 

At the same weight, Floyd crushes Canelo. Thats just all there is to it no matter how much his fan boys keep wanting to argue otherwise. In fact, Floyd would beat this Canelo even easier because of how much more slower and predictable he's gotten.

Refusing to make adjustments = no. 1 reason why so many boxers have gotten beaten by Floyd.

Lol +1 rep for this comment

 

Canelo's a more complete fighter than Floyd ever was. And don't get that twisted. When I say more complete, I'm talking everything - defense, power, punch selection, punch technique, head / upper body movement, ability to not only box but to walk fighters down, fight aggressively in a fan friendly style.

If you wanna talk about the biggest difference between Canelo 10 years ago and Canelo today, it's his abiility to make adjustments. That's the main reason why, like you said, Floyd beat so many fighters. And that's the main reason why he beat Canelo 10 years ago. Canelo's ability to make adjustments, and on top of that, an ability to prepare in the gym and tailor specific gameplans to his opponents taking into consideration their style and probable strategy. Like expecting Jermell to move laterally and knowing he has to cut off the ring. Canelo today is basically like the best versions of Mayweather, only with heavier hands, more variety on his punches, better punch technique, more body punching and doing it at higher weight classes.

 

Thank god for common sense. This is it and we can add the important point that the best of both occurred at vastly different weights. Canelo was at his very best above 154 for mine and Mayweather below it.

P4P Floyd would be the better fighter.

 

It’s not realistic though.

The current SMW version of Canelo, who can weigh-in at 168 pounds, vs the 150 pound version of Floyd who he fought from 2013?

 

Floyd wasn’t beating an elite level SMW-LHW, who could weigh-in at 168 pounds.

It would have been a completely different fight.

 

Canelo is now a roided monster. He is way too big for Floyd at his biggest, even with his own peds. In a p4p sense, Floyd is better, with Canelo having numerous gifts and cherry picks over Floyd, who had JLC and Maidana, along with everything after ODLH.

 

Loma downloads info and now they're all supercomputers, using their huge brains to calculate the best way to win the fight.

Canelo's 6 lines of defence:
1. Promoter
2. USADA
3. Judges
4. Referee
5. Guard
6. Chin

Yet he still gets tagged flush.

 

He’s obviously an elite level SMW.

 

How offensive minded and aggressive would Floyd have been against an elite level SMW?

There’s a reason he only fought above WW just 3 times, and never above JMW.

 

Don’t be silly.

Canelo would walk him down by throwing power punches. And even if he struggled to land clean, he’d have put Floyd on the defensive, which would have negated his own offense.

Also, at some point, Canelo would have landed. And even if they’d have been arm punches etc, they’d have landed and hurt Floyd.

A 36 year old, 150 pound Floyd wasn’t beating elite level SMW’s-LHW’s.

 

Have to agree with this. There's a huge difference between the dried out Canelo PBF fought and the tank-like version of Canelo we see today. Ginger would put a hole through him today he's throwing twice as hard as he ever did at 152. The "bicep bomb" may not have worked against 175lb Bivol but they'd work against teeny Floyd. The two versions of Canelo are not comparable.

 

You once told me that Floyd would have beaten Bernard Hopkins.

You aren’t able to discuss Floyd in an objective manner.

Yes, the current version of Canelo has slowed down. But he’s also now a SMW-LHW, who wouldn’t have shown Floyd the same amount of respect.

He wouldn’t have stood off of him in the manner that he did back then.

Now use your brain for a moment, and ponder how confident, aggressive and offensive minded Floyd would have been against an elite level SMW-LHW.

You’ve got to be utterly delusional to believe that Floyd would have approached the fight and fought in the exact same manner.

It would have been a completely different stylistic fight, against a completely different fighter.

Floyd wouldn’t even let him weigh-in at 154 pounds, despite him being a fellow JMW champion. But yet he’d have had no problem with him weighing-in at 168 pounds, and he’d have just fought him in the same manner, which would have produced the same result?

Really??

Get back to reality.

Also, Floyd was in his absolute prime between LW-LWW.

So if you seriously believe that those versions of Floyd were beating a SMW, then there’s no point in you even replying to me.