I dont think Fury should be stripped of his titles

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I dont think Fury should be stripped of his titles

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    To my knowledge Fury wasnt proven to have tested positive for anything after he fought Wladimir Klitschko.
    I read on here, that he was apparently found to have tested positive for cocaine, but that wasnt when he fought Wladimir.
    If a fighter is fighting on cocaine, then I wouldnt have a problem with them being stripped as it could mask pain, but I havent read that to be the case here and I have read of other boxers who have said that they partied between fights. SR Leonard mentioned this before he fought Hagler.

    Fury hasnt been as inactive as some other champs, who werent stripped so fair should be fair. If its not being done to one, it shouldnt be done to the other.

    There is more to add but I will leave it there saying I hope the champ gets well soon.
     
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  2. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think many forget that when Fury challenged for a world title, that he challenged and beat the champ.
     
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  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Nobody is really saying he should be stripped for cocaine use, it was allegedly out of competition and so not seen as an adverse result.

    It's his combination of inactivity and the alleged nandrolone use last year. His reasons for postponing the fight and now cancelling it, lack credibility as he's openly lied about things in the past. And the WBA have twice requested medical certificates for this latest cancellation and they have not received a response form Fury at this time to my knowledge.

    If he can provide the correct medical certificates and his appeal of the UKAD decision is successful then he should keep the belts, but if he can't do either of these then he should be stripped.
     
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  4. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Do one. He should be stripped for being an inactive liar who refused to take a legitimate test and failed another in the build up to his next bout. This isn't up for debate.

    Now in regards to his allegedly previously failed test that brings into question as to whether or not he should have been allowed to fight Wlad at all.
     
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  5. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    1. He pulled out of a fight twice.
    2. He sent drug testers away
    3. He claims he has a medical condition and we don't know when that would mean he would be back.

    How can he keep the titles? Titles need to be defended and we have no idea when fury would be in any position to do that. His had long enough and needs to be stripped.
     
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  6. Uppercut_Artist

    Uppercut_Artist Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Fury is the champ and Vlad is the Chump.
     
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  7. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    self inflicted
    direct link to drugs especially class A,s and mental health
    so its a bit stupid looking for sympathy or what ever it was the public did not give him
     
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  8. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    To my knowledge nothing was proven about Fury previously and I cant understand why it took so long for these questions to suddenly arise?
    Ward was a WBA champ and didnt fight for a longer time than Fury at the moment and when he did, wasnt at the weight where his title was, but didnt get stripped.
     
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  9. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    When Ward wasnt interested in a test when Rodriguez mentioned about doing a test and was then inactive for longer, he wasnt stripped, so I feel rules should be the same for all
     
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  10. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    You're a mental case and I'm not in the mood to oblige you with free treatment right now.

    If you can't see the difference between the two situations then there is something seriously wrong with you.
     
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  11. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    When Ward wasnt interested in a test when Rodriguez mentioned about doing a test and was then inactive for longer, he wasnt stripped, so I feel rules should be the same for all

    I understand that testing is very difficult when fights are made with only 6 weeks to a couple of months before fight night and fights being made with only that sort of time seems to be something that happens alot, so I think as a whole boxing needs t a big overhaul to make it a clean sport.

    If Fury is medically unfit, then there should be sympathy
     
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  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I agree the situations were different. Ward was inactive for longer and wasnt interested in testing when Rodriguez mentioned about it. Fury is claimed to be medically unfit and not in court battles. All are tough situations but the same rules should apply to all.
    Do you not think the same rules should apply for all? Or is that something that you would claim only a mental case would want. Knob
     
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  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Im not saying something is or isnt self inflicted, but I also think its terrible to knock someone when they are down
     
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  14. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    You're comparing doubts you have about a fighter to actual failed/refused on the day due to being about to fail tests.

    You're comparing documented - if frivolous and stupid - legal battles to unsubstantiated injury/health claims.
     
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  15. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I liked Fury and was a fan of his, but boxing can't wait forever for him to get over his mental/medical issues. He should either be stripped or made champ in recess so that the HW division can move on.

    The last possibility wouldn't be hard on Fury at all, in fact it is very generous. He could then come back when he is ready for a title fight, even though he clearly deserves to be stripped (regardless of what happened to others).
     
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