I don't think Peterson has a problem with Testosterone....

Peterson was homeless for a period of time in his life where he wouldnt have received an adequate diet or decent living conditions, my guess is that this has something to do with his condition.

 

He has had that since his trainer picked him and his brother up when they were kids man...

 

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Miranda was born in 1981 in Buenaventura, Colombia and was abandoned by his mother when he was one month old.[1] At age nine, Miranda escaped from his caretakers to live in the harsh street life of Colombia. Miranda went on a search to find his mother and at a construction site, he ended up confronting his mother's brother. The uncle he never knew told him that if Miranda was really the little boy his sister gave away, then he should have a birthmark on his leg. Miranda unveiled the 2-inch long circular proof. The man led him to his mother's new home, only to be abandoned again by his mother. By the time he was 12, he was working in the plantain fields. The next year, he had a full-time construction job. By the time he was 14, he was working as a cattle butcher. At age 15, Miranda took up boxing, training for a half-year before starting his amateur career.[2] Miranda won 128 out of 132 fights, winning four Colombian national titles. Miranda won a bronze medal in the 2000 Olympic Trials in Argentina, but failed to qualify for the 2000 Colombian Olympic team.[3]

 

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I can't believe people genuinely buy into Peterson's bull****.

 

You see zero issues with a fighter being allowed to train/fight with roughly 4 times the amount of normal testosterone levels?

If a fighter can no longer produce adequate levels of testosterone, then tough ****. You live with that. That's the physical limitations you possess. It ain't no excuse for you to go and pump yourself with PEDs to unreasonable levels and gain huge advantages over your opponents in a hurt game.

 

I think this is a matter of the commission here in the states figuring this thing out.
You know DC wont advise or recommend Peterson to go to one of their clinics so NY and Nevada should step up and recommend that Peterson go to one of their clinics and get a 2nd opinion to see if their Clinics findings match what Petersons Dr said he discovered.....

Why would the commissions just allow him to hand over a Drs note and be okay with it when that Dr is paid by Peterson?

 

Meh, it was 2am and I was abit drunk when I wrote that post so to be fully honest I wasn't really reading the textbook that closely anyway. I'm sure it mentioned both.

The problem with concussions as a reason for low testosterone is that the research for TBI (traumatic brain injury) and its association with low testosterone is pretty weak. The largest study I've ever heard of only had about 100 participants. The rates in the literature are between 5-9% of victims of TBI will go on to have low testosterone.....the studies out there don't do a great job controlling for confounding factors though. For instance one of the studies that I've seen basically stated that all the people with TBI who also ended up with testosterone deficiency had significantly elevated BMIs. Which to be frank is probably a more likely cause of low testosterone. Also in all the studies low testosterone takes years to develop after the TBI and the average age in the studies that I've seen is adults (M and F) in their late 40s. Its kinda complicated to get into the details of it but basically just use logic. Lamont Peterson is young, not fat and not a punch drunk idiot. I.e. its very unlikely that he falls into that 5-9% of people who've had a TBI that develop low testosterone.

As far as the age thing goes yes your testosterone level decrease but they do so at such a slow rate that in a 30 year old man this is not an acceptable explanation for low testosterone.

One correction that I'll make to my last post thought is that a pituitary tumor (micro or macro-pituitaryadenoma) is common enough and that it would be reasonable to consider this as a possible cause...but again use logic, nothing has ever been mentioned about a pituitary mass. And again this would have been an easy conversation to have with the athletic commission and VADA. But that conversation never happened.

Last point. I have never treated a young healthy male for testosterone deficiency. I have never come across a young healthy male who is not a testicular cancer survivor that needed to be treated for a testosterone deficiency. The only guys I've ever given testosterone to are extremely obese men in their late 40s to early 50s. Doesn't mean their aren't young males out there with legit reasons to be on testosterone but its incredibly rare.

Bottom-line is Lamont could fall into one of many incredibly rare categories.....or he could be a drug cheat like the rest of pro sports....which one is more likely?

 

If your brain is so damaged that you need TRT you shouldn't be fighting anymore. In the Olympics there have been only very few exemption because they do it properly and make sure that you really need it. Everyone hi is interstate in this should listen to Victor Conte on the Joe Rogan podcast web if its mainly about mma

 

He's a Girly-man

 

What do you reckon about this fella, poor guy needs TRT:

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Peterson looked like a beast last night. He wasn't known as much of a puncher earlier in his career. Lately, he's been punishing guys. They need to test the **** out of him. I can see him having trouble landing fights.

 

Live with low T eh......it is horrible and no man should have to live with zero energy, zero libido, erectile dysfunction, increased fat gain, depression etc etc etc etc etc.......but, ONLY if his condition is indeed legitimate and requires TRT to mitigate it. Hypogonadism is a medical condition, so denying someone a counter measure is immoral....and TRT is not prescribed in performance enhancing doses. It doesn`t really help performance beyond what the athlete would be naturally able to do when healthy and prime. The only guys receiving unnatural benefit are old men who keep their hormone levels at that of a 20 year old....but even that is self limiting because hormones alone do not simply defeat the aging process in an athlete. Time always wins.

Prescribed and monitored TRT doesn`t pump you up and aid in incredible gains like supraphysiological doses of steroids do. It brings you to the high normal range of natural testosterone levels in men, or that is at least the intent. If a guy is just on TRT and actually has real hypogonadism or secondary hypogonadism, his advantages are not great in the least as these doses are not truly performance enhancing when compared to guys who do real doses of anabolics and androgens.

If the condition is legit, there should be no penalty for TRT. It should be monitored though and tested to ensure the levels are kept in the physiological norm.

That being said, the commissions should be notified and there should be actual legitimate medical documentation of the issue (which is easy to get even without hypogonadism), and in no way should athletes think it is like a license to do anything above and beyond the TRT regimen.....which sadly most do.

 

Exactly. If your body won't cooperate, that's the breaks. TRT should not be allowed for competing athletes. It's the same type of objection I had to Pistorius being allowed to race in the Olympics with his blades.