I dont think Ward is a top boxer. That doesnt mean not a top fighter.

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  1. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Sure, and I am the king of England.
     
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  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Take another look.
     
  3. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    Okay, I am not the king of England, I am David Beckham. Thanks.
     
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  4. Todd498

    Todd498 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Uhhhh... actually there was low blows and there are multiple videos with different angles to prove it. WTF are you talking about?:thinking::thinking:
     
  5. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As Bernard Hopkins often says: a win is a win is a win. I don't see no DQ in Ward's record, so whatever tactics he's using, he's well aware how to stay within or on the border of pro boxing rules. Don't blame him, blame the sport that allows him to get away with stuff.

    I prefer a clean fighter, which Ward is not, but he's a legit HOF-er who's exposed several fighters to have no actual knowledge of the inside game and going to the trenches. Doing whatever to win without getting DQ's is an art similarly to painting a textbook masterpiece, and the opponent must be prepared for something very different to a tinkling contest.
     
  6. Zulawski

    Zulawski The Fistic Pariah Full Member

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    If you aren't bending the rules, you aren't trying.
     
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  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    There is no video in existence that shows Andre Ward landing numerous clear low blows.

    In the shots that culminated in the stoppage, only the last one was borderline.
     
  8. Salty Dog

    Salty Dog globalize the Buc-ees revolution Full Member

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    This is becoming like KTFO6. The tears are abundant and the sweetest of nectar. The butthurt is sublime and persistent. Please, do carry on. :icon_popcorn:
     
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  9. Loudon

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    Let's imagine that it was Joe Calzaghe that had pulled of that same win.

    Bailey would be on here telling us how Joe had beaten one of the greatest LHW's of all time, where all of the shots were legal with no controversy.
     
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  10. obelector

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    ward is not a boxer, there is a reason he surrounded himself with gangsters and refuses to fight away from his home commission.

    boxing fans cottoned onto this a long time ago which is why they simply stopped watching him or paying him any attention. he is an utter irrelevance to the world of boxing.
     
  11. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    True, remember Primo Carnera? Ward is just another recipient of beneficial corruption.
     
  12. bailey

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    Buying time? There was nothing to answer. You made a statement of saying Ward didnt need to break any rules to win, so I asked why you think he did? Thats you looking to buy time and not answer

    He may well have complained to try and get notice for the shots which were low and looking at at least the last 2 punches Ward threw as well as some earlier ones, it seems he had reason for complaint. Still you try and deny video evidence

    From what?

    Well if you just focus on the stoppage then you have no point of dispute as it was a low blow

    He took a big shot and wanted to give himself time to recover, which is normal and natural, but he did land after. This is you not telling the truth. No doubt that punch took something out of him, but the fight was still in swing and we know Kovalev also has the power to put Ward down

    Yes. I like one of the other judges felt Kovalev was ahead before the finish. Many did. Not sure what you find so disputable there?


    I did when I said a very good brawler
    Several werent borderline, some were

    Or Ward/Kovalev 2. But with your logic im shocked you are even bringing up Golota/Bowe. Shows how bias you are and how you cant debate

    Finished why? Because of one big punch he seemed to have shaken off? Because of one bad round. Deluded. Yeah you got that right
     
  13. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    This is like you suddenly thinking T Morrison beat prime Foreman because Foreman beat Moorer.
    You must be the pained one, to have to want to bring up another fighter. One you seem to want to make alot of criticism about. Wonder if people are right when they think you and Herol are the same poster. Wouldnt shock me at all now. He also seems a bit obsessed and you have been referred to as Triple L
     
  14. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    Havent a clue what you are going on about? Are you an apologist to rule breaking?
     
  15. JeremyCorbyn

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    I think the point here really with the KO, is Kovalev was not punched in the balls.

    He bent over and feigned injury to try and buy time because he was clearly in trouble, you can't do that in boxing, maybe in soccer, but not in boxing, you have to protect yourself at all times.

    The only controversy is whether the ref stopped it early, but I understand his position because, for me, Kovalev quit like a dog.
     
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