I dont understand Floyd's reasoning of fighting the guys he does.

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  1. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    As a Floyd fan I do agree that he needs to take the big WW fights but I WOULDNT FAULT HIM FOR FIGHTING PAC NEXT IF PAC WINS..GIVE HIM A CHANCE AND HE WILL FIGHT A MOSLEY (HE TRIED 1 TIME IN 2006) OR A COTTO IF COTTO GETS THE W
     
  2. Concrete

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    No he didn't see enough money in them,

    He asked Arum to set up a fight with Cotto for 10mil, Arum declined.

    DLH is a better boxer then Margo, has the same size advantage, and PBF had to go up to 154 instead of staying at 147 to fight him.

    PBF fighting DLH at 154 should be counted on par with fighting a top welterweight.
     
  3. NALLEGE

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    According to Arum, Mayweather turned down the career-best purse to meet Margarito on Aug. 12 on HBO Pay-Per-View, instead opting for free agency by buying Arum out of their deal for $750,000.

    "I did hear from him," Arum said of Mayweather. "He decided not to fight this summer. I made him a tremendous offer. I think Margarito is the riskiest fight for him of anyone out there."


    Mayweather adviser Leonard Ellerbe told ESPN.com that Mayweather passed on the fight not because he is ducking Margarito, but because he couldn't be ready to fight by Aug. 12. Mayweather injured his right hand during a dominating April 8 victory against Zab Judah.


    "Floyd is not 100 percent healthy," Ellerbe said. "He has a bruised right hand. His hand is not broken. It's bruised, but it's a bad bruise. He wants to go into any fight 100 percent healthy. If Antonio Margarito happens to be the best available option when he is healthy, so be it.


    "We are not turning down Margarito. I want to make that crystal clear. When and if he is the best available option for Floyd's next fight, that's the direction he will move in."



    Arum said Mayweather preferred to await the outcome of the May 6 Oscar De La Hoya-Ricardo Mayorga fight instead of committing to Margarito because he would prefer to fight De La Hoya.



    "We're not sitting waiting on De La Hoya," Ellerbe said. "He's in a tough, tough fight with Mayorga."



    Many in the sport believe a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight is the biggest fight on the horizon and the only one capable of generating 1 million-plus buys on pay-per-view.



    The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.



    Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.



    Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.



    "That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."
    Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."



    Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."



    The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.



    Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.
    "I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.

    You know, I forgot that I posted this info on Sceneboxing a while back before Sceneboxing started lying about some of their info on fights lol... Good job who ever posted this article, now I have to go back into my archives to further this posters point lol...
    Sorry Eastside for posting the words "Sceneboxing" since it makes me sick also to write the words lol...
     
  4. NALLEGE

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    "That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."
    Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."



    Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."
     
  5. NALLEGE

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    It's amazing how you can kill a single thread with honesty, and good reporting when you do the research lol...
     
  6. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Aids is the only thing that the dumbest poster on ESB brings to a thread.

    [url]http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=158354&highlight=worst+poster[/url]
     
  7. NALLEGE

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    The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.

    Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.
    "I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.
     
  8. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    not honesty

    :deal


    Joyboys arguments is that Floyd is making these offers to these now big threats when they werent such a big threat, either a green Cotto, occupied unheard of Margarito, or a Mosley coming off 2 one sided losses to Forrest and wins over a washed up fighter in Vargas.


    I thought Floyd was a smart business man, why make these offers when the fight wont sell as good as much they will later on, because he knows they wont accept the fight and Mayweather can use it as an excuse when he refuses the fight in the future....fact.
     
  9. NALLEGE

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    So how does this justify Floyd in why he did not duck Margarito? It doesn't lol, and it doesn't have to. I'm going to be brutally honest. AM didn't have the skills to beat a fighter like Floyd and deep down fans know it. AM got brutally beaten up and stopped by Shane, who did beat Dlh, and many think Dlh won the rematch against Shane, and Dlh gave Floyd at good fight-at 154.

    How does this justify Floyd? Floyd is more skilled than all 3, and was more skilled than those guys at the time those fights were proopsed or fought. It's just hard for Floyd's fans to think that he loses to these guys at age 33 and over now, but if you ask every fan who they think wins in a fight with Floyd if Shane and Dlh were younger, and many of those fans believe that both would've given Floyd hell, and I believe they would've also...
     
  10. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Everyone other than the groupies know that he didnt make an offer to anyone.

    In fact the only thing he offers is his ass to Ellerbe.:deal
     
  11. NALLEGE

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    Boom, you don't have your facts straight at the moment. Boom, Arum did not have the vision Floyd had. The article clearly points this out... Green Cotto:huh, Cotto had how many defenses at 140 when Floyd wanted the fight?
     
  12. ecdrm15

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    Too bad for Floyd...

    Good post
     
  13. NALLEGE

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    I'll believe anything you want to say about Floyd against Shane or Dlh, but you can ball Margarito up and throw him in the garbage since he is not on the level of these 3. AM beat cotto and we still don't know if his hands were loaded or not in that fight. We have no proof, but that doesn't stop fans from thinking he did since he tried to cheat against Shane.
     
  14. Pimp C

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    I've posted this same article 1000 times I've yet to hear a PBF hater refute it.:yep It pretty much owns them with saying that PBF never wanted Margo or Cotto.
     
  15. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You've been owned in this thread fool by the article posted it pretty much shows that PBF sought out Margo so quit with the bull****. There's also evidence that has been posted of Shane turning PBF down on HBO as well. **** man quit being irrational when the facts are in your face. You're about as bad as the people who continue to claim Pac is the bigger draw than PBF despite the numbers proving otherwise.:-(