I don't understand how people think Canelo will beat Golovkin

This will be a very funny thread to bump after the fight. People like you underrate things like level of comp and big fight experience both of which Canelo has in spades over GGG. GGG went life and death with the first legit fighter he's fought in Jacobs. Canelo is a level above the likes of Jacobs. This will be the biggest fight and best fighter GGG has ever fought the same can't be said with Canelo.

 

I get that Canelo has improved from Floyd to Cotto..but where has he improved since Cotto? He has fought very sub par opponents since then so it might be his opponents aren't as good in the same time frame.

I firmly believe that if it goes the distance GGG hasn't racked up multiple KD rounds, Canelo will get the nod on the cards.

 

Golovkin is definitely slowing down so in that respect Canelo has caught him at a good time. I expect this to be close

 

Actually you turned my original post into total BS.

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- Not competitive at all really. Floyd has his way in there easier than he did with Maidana or Cotto.

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- Yeah Arguably also meaning it was a life and death struggle if not a loss. Not much of a feather in the cap if it was a highly disputed win. It's not like Lara has gone on to do great things either.

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- Hahaha.. Daniel Geale was also dominated and destroyed by GGG. So? Canelo went the distance in a competitive fight with a guy who was old, smaller, and got knocked out by a former fly weight. If he couldn't KO this version of Cotto, he really shouldn't be talking about KOing a guy who fights bigger stronger guys and has never been even knocked down.

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-- Martinez win was BS and everyone knows it. The man had broken legs. Geale got knocked out easily by both. Again so what?

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-- Kirkland has no chin. He is a decent offensive fighter and brought it to Canelo in spots, but he has **** defense and stamina and gets hurt easily. Oh, and before you try to get personal about boxing knowledge with someone you don't even know, I've probably watched boxing longer than you have. I'm old. ****, you haven't even been around this site as long as I have. Don't act like a know it all douche. To me your just a biased fanboy who rides with whatever guy waves the mexican flag. That's fine, but don't expect much respect for your opinions among real fans of the sport.

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- Shane already lost badly to those legends. Why do you keep trying to boost a fighters resume based on losses? That was two more bad beatings for Shane before he got to Canelo. It was a good fight for Canelo at the time being 21, but it doesn't make for top level resume stats. Besides unlike most 21 year olds, Canelo had quite a few years into his professional career by then.

 

This. I really cant believe how people actually think GGG is falling off enough for him to get beat. There isnt a guy 160lbs and under that can beat him. NONE! I get a good laugh at how people say "Kell Brook exposed him and gave him a good fight". What is saw in that fight was Brook get his eye socket smashed in the first round and nearly get kod in the first then GGG CLEARLY coasted for a few rounds but when he decided play time was over the fight was over.
He then goes the distance with Jacobs who might be the second best mw in the world right now and grossly underrated because he has a questionable chin which he proved has gotten better by going 12 rounds with GGG which no has done in years. GGG is a monster and he is going to be in full Godzilla mode on Sept 16th and people are going to be shocked by what he does to canelo. This is a terrible matchup for Canelo. Btw im a canelo fan.

 

Has he fought a full blown middleweight yet? Chavez Jr is a lightheavy, but he also isn't dedicated and hasn't had a name on his record since 2011-2012??

Dumping the belt to fight Liam Smith? What did that prove?

They sacrificed the loss to Mayweather to raise his profile. After two close fights against fighters who could move, trout and Lara, they fed him come forward fighters with little defence, Kirkland and Angulo.

Campaigning at 154-160, why didn't he fight an Andrade, a Charlo, Hurd, Lemieux, Jacobs, Rubio?

Like it or not, Canelo is GBPs cash cow, a PPV star who they'll match carefully in order to make as much money as they can. He can fight Khan and Chavez Jr and make big bucks.
They're not interested in taking on all challenges to prove themselves.

GGG took on all corners until he realised he'd get 10x more money and perhaps credit for beating Canelo. And since then he's been lured into fighting the likes of Brook to raise his profile, earn that extra money and increase his stake in the bargaining table.

 

You're such a weenie lol

You realize you can dissect anyone's resume.. Especially a resume like Golovkin's which is rather pathetic for an elite P4P 7 year champion.

 

Because Golovkin struggled massively with Jacobs and a fair bit with Brook too.

He came very, very close to losing to Jacobs. And while the Brook fight ended with a strong defeat, it wasn't going so well for Golovkin in the earlier rounds.

Golovkin looked vulnerable, and he had always looked damn near invincible before (except for that Ouma fight, which has largely been forgotten).

If Brook and Jacobs can trouble Golovkin so much, why can't Canelo?

In addition, Canelo always seem to be the beneficiary of some rather strange scorecards. So if this goes to the judges, who knows what could happen.

Personally, I really hope Golovkin totally flattens and humiliates El Pollo though.

 

I agree, the only thing I can see is GGG getting old overnight and not being able to pull the trigger, it's happened to many a fighter around his age, especially fighting a much younger man. I just don't see Alvarez having the stuff to do it

 

Canelo has been criticized for cutting weight by some for some odd reason. However, some of his most impressive wins have come at 154 or 155 against fighters who weigh about the same as he does and or have had success against fighter as big if not bigger than Canelo.

Lara, Trout, Cotto, Angulo, Kirkland, Smith, all big Jr.MWs who weigh around the same as Canelo on fight night or have had no problems beating guys as big or bigger than Canelo in Cotto's case for example.

What did it prove? What did you think they wanted to prove? Despite Smith's lack of popularity in the UK, it got Canelo's name in the british paper, it got Canelo his FOURTH world title, it showed that he can make 154 and still operate at the highest level, it gave him more options at MW.

What's wrong with that? WTF?? So a 21 year old has the opportunity to test himself against the best P4P fighter and you're criticizing him because he accepted the challenge?? That some real hate there lol
Canelo fights two extremely talented fighters with styles that are not suited for his counter punching style, his advisors are against it, he takes the fights anyway, and it some how a bad thing to you? WTF, what world do you live in?
Canelo fights two hard hitting JrMWs who have the power to hurt just about anyone, and its a bad thing in your eyes?? The hate is real folks.

Here is a list of the top Jr MWs between 2013-2015

Miguel Cotto, Erislandy Lara, Austin Trout, Saul Alvarez. Crazy huh...

So fighting Lara when he was 23, Trout when he was 22, Cotto, Mayweather, and now Golovkin is the resume of a coddled fighter?? GTFO!! HAHAHAHAHA.. Dumbass hater.

I'm done with you, you're boxing knowledge, and common sense are lacking, and its a waste of my time. I think you may even be Gold's alt, you post like him. See ya!

 

The only way Canelo can win is if he moves, holds, and survives then recieves another gift.

 

It's nothing wrong to think canelo can win as he is a top talent.
The things is the ones who think that way are either Mexican or Mayweather supporters.
I can understand the first as its normal too root your ethnic fighter. But the seconds are mostly just haters.

 

With the Judges on your side. That's how Canelo will "beat" GGG. Any close rounds will go to Canelo, so how can you beat that? You can't! And let's be real, Canelo has good whiskers, he ain't getting knocked out. He will survive the 12 rounds and be claimed ......."the new"...

But I will be surprised if Canelo wins fair and square. If he does, all credit for him for pulling it off ala Danny Garcia vs Lucas Matthysse.

 

The difference is that GGG has fought whatever has been available to him in his own weight class. That is why he has more fights against top 10 ranked opponents than any other current champion. Canelo meanwhile was dodging fights with both Charlo's and Andrade who were seen as the biggest threats in his own division for several years. GGG has made the best of what was available. Canelo tries to cherry pick smaller fighters and older fighters with big names and then make stupid demands on catch weights and ring entrances.

 

That's a laugh

If they're big what does that make the Charlo's, Hurd, and Andrade?