I don't want to see Mayweather vs Pacquiao rematch even IF they engage in a war

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  1. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    It would be the 2016 version of Pacquiao, which sounds like an absolute joke, vs an aging but still good condition Mayweather.


    Pacquiao is the aggressive fighter who turned pro when he was a middle school kid equiv. You're trying to suggest that a guy who has been knocked out horribly, been in so many wars and is an aggressive fighter, who has been a pro since all the way back then, still would fight anywhere near his capabilities of old.
    Pac was a frigging flyweight once and has a small frame, of course he's not going to be anywhere near the same fighter. Just because he beat Bradley and Algieri, he still isn't near what he used to be. Go and watch some old fights.

    GTFO with that bull.

    Then you have Mayweather who only fought twice a year, in a defensive style which enables you to preserve your ring age (your actual age is not as useful). Of course he's going to outlast Pacquiao, in this game.
    Here are Bernard Hopkins' recent words:
    "People say oh he 39, when I was 39/40 I was fighting Jermaine Taylor and Winky Wright. I fought Kovalev last year and I'm 50. I'll fight Goodboy Golovkin soon and I'm going to be 51. Stop making excuses, Stop making excuses, there is business and there is fooling people, don't let yourself get fooled. He's Cherrypicking".

    Manny Pacquiao faded from 2010 because of no more PED's apparently, even though he has an ancient ring age that caught up with him.

    Manny was already semi-shot vs Mayweather, and yet countered him all night and outlanded him, deserving a draw.

    Anyway, 'WAR' and Run Duckhugger are foreign concepts, Floyd's not skilled enough to get in wars, he just shuts down in a war because his control-freak style can't handle it.
     
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  3. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Yes, that was a mercy scorecard for the Pac-Margarito fight, the prime guys that Mayweather ducked by pulling this extremely convenient 'retirement' move.
     
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    Fixed
     
  5. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Actually, Pac's frame might be small, but he's larger than Mayweather in a lot of measurements. He's "big boned", so he can put on weight effectively. His wrists, fists, calves, etc are larger than Floyd's. He's not small, he's short. Look at him vs Oscar, he's thick.
     
  6. MVC!

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    118-110.

    That's a fact :nod
     
  7. Steve_Fox

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    pac almost beat floyd with one arm. what do u think hes gonna do to him with 2 good arms
     
  8. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    This maybe does allow him to put on weight effectively, but his strength is still compromised. Take HGH juiced Gamboa for instance, weighing over 150lbs vs Crawford, he was always going to have a hard time against a naturally bigger guy.
    For boxing, having the smaller frame is a disadvantage when you're the aggressive one.
    vs Oscar in the weigh in when Oscar looked like a zombie ghost is not really a good place for comparison.
     
  9. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Preach.

    ..two 'good' arms..I'd prefer to say two horrendously past prime arms.
     
  10. drenlou

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    Cheato wasnt prime when he fought Pac.
     
  11. cslb

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    I don't want to see a rematch because when Pac loses again, he will just come up with more excuses.
     
  12. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    That's why I said at or near prime.
    Margarito was 170lbs on fight night. Pacquiao the former flyweight weighing 144.5lbs in the weigh-in, beat him to a pulp. Legacy win, a type of win Floyd is unfamiliar with.
     
  13. Enigmadanks

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    Well Floyd won't engage him in a war, I think most people on this forum know this.

    I thought pacmans line with kellerman in his post fight interview was gold "I wanted to hit him but he kept moving."

    No reason to think Floyd won't put up a similar defensive oriented fight in a second go around. The only thing I see going differently is Floyd will probably stay off the ropes a bit more and he'll probably start throwing the left cross behind the right lead (the shot his dad was pleading for him to do between rounds.)
     
  14. abuffy

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    I don't want to see Pac lose again.

    Though, if they do a face-off with Max Kellerman then I'll change my mind.
     
  15. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Yea poor comparison but first that came to mind.