I finally figured out what bothers me about Wlad

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by london2k, Jan 6, 2011.


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  1. london2k

    london2k Guest

    I am actually a big fan of Wlad, and in particular Vitali. What a nice change to get guys who are not only dominating their sport, but who are well educated, speak multiple languages, can hold a coherent conversation, and are good ambassadors for the sport. Wlad's no all-time great...in my view he is too defensive and stiff now (much more than in the early days if you watch the old videos) to make that claim. But he IS the best out there right now...which in itself is no small accomplishment.

    But despite all that, I've always been a little uncomfortable about Wlad, and I just realised why.....

    When Tyson.....or guys like Ray Mercer, Michael Dokes a young George Foreman, etc got in a ring.........you got the impression that if not for the padded gloves they were forced to wear.... and the protection of the ref and the Marquis of Queensberry rules, that these guys would have seriously injured their opponents, if not killed them. In other words........in the ring they were forcibly restrained by the rules, and were at their LEAST dangerous.

    You just KNEW that they could walk into any bar or prison anywhere, and even the huge, scary tough guys ithere would get killed by the likes of Tyson in a down and dirty street fight. And to be honest, to me that's what you want in a HW champ.. ...a guy who can kick anyone's ass, anywhere, under any circumstances....AND of course, in the ring.

    With Wlad....and his worryingly slender body, despite his good muscular development that he gets around fight time.......I just don't get that impression at ALL. In fact, I get the OPPOSITE impression. With Wlad I get the sense that the gloves, ref and Marquis of Queensberry rules make him much MORE of a threat, by keeping things fairly civil. I simply can't see Wlad beating the **** out of some huge biker in a bar, or the hard guys in prison....if they got into a street fight. He wouldn't last a minute in my opinion.

    None of this changes the fact that Wlad has develped into the best HW on the planet in the sport of boxing at the moment. But in his case, he is very good at the SPORT of boxing as opposed to being very good at just fighting. I don't see him as a hard ass who could legitimately claim to be "The baddest man on the planet". Not by a mile.
     
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  2. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Oh I thought it might be his fights put you to sleep every time.
     
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  3. Mordechai

    Mordechai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    go and watch ufc if you don't appreciate the art of boxing. boxing is not about killing someone or beat the **** out of someone, boxing is a sport which is there for competition were the most smart will always win and not some fat biker
     
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  4. london2k

    london2k Guest

    'Guess you missed the point:patsch
     
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  5. cesare-borgia

    cesare-borgia Übermensch in fieri Full Member

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    You can say what you want about wlad, he is boxing his way to victories with the tools he has. BUt vitali is a sadistic beast who would **** anyone up in a street fight.
     
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  6. taobum70

    taobum70 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You are too easily impressed with appearances. I am practicing a real - fighting oriented martial art and the most menacing fighter in this style is a guy who is a professional prison guard. He looks about as meek as it gets, is slender and has a soft voice and facial expression. He regularly is confronted with psychotic criminals that outweigh him by 100 pounds and that have all the tattooes, muscles and looks to make you think they would eat him alive. Yet I wouldn't bet money against this guy in a street fight against any thug. I have seen the same thing with martial artists in China who sometimes look like you can blow them over - that is, before they hit you. Frank Bruno once trained with a 130 pound Wing Tsun guy in Hong Kong and afterwards said that in a real fight, he would lose against him.
     
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  7. maciek4

    maciek4 Boxing Addict Full Member

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  8. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    :lol: Wlad would KO any biker/prison ****** with a jab, so would Floyd Mayweather
     
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  9. Post Box

    Post Box I'm back too, bitches Full Member

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    :deal
     
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  10. zicas

    zicas Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol:
     
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  11. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    haha, wtf is this bull****?

    Wlad would beat up any untrained fat biker or thug in a street fight. The only thing that would stop him killing them would be the fact his hands are considered lethal weapons, being a professionally trained boxer, and he'd be sure to cop a manslaughter/lower degree murder charge.
     
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  12. lenin

    lenin what the **** you say? Full Member

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    dumb thread on so many levels

    do you like ali or lewis?
     
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  13. Leonit

    Leonit Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    so true. Let the noob watch UFC
     
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  14. icanmanifest

    icanmanifest Member Full Member

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    ******ed comment... MMA is even MORE of an art than boxing. If you love boxing and appreciate the art of it, then you should have an even greater appreciation for fighters who train, study and blend several martial arts into one competition. MMA isn't about killing someone... its is a MORE complete competition than boxing is. And requires way more fighting IQ than boxing does.

    I love both... but this was just an ignorant statement.
     
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  15. FIN

    FIN Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree,i appreciate good boxing skills,love Floyd,Sweet Pea,Winky Wright,James Toney,some of my favourite fighters to watch,but the heavyweight champ is meant to be a bad ass,not a big stiff robotic guy that seems terrified in the ring,spends ten rounds jabbing and jabbing before knocking his opponent out,Wlad is just lucky he's in the worst heavyweight era ever,lets be real about this,it aint his fault but the guy is boring to watch and will never make anyone's top ten heavyweight's list..
     
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