I finally figured out what bothers me about Wlad

Saku · Jan 6, 2011

taobum70 said: ↑

You are too easily impressed with appearances. I am practicing a real - fighting oriented martial art and the most menacing fighter in this style is a guy who is a professional prison guard. He looks about as meek as it gets, is slender and has a soft voice and facial expression. He regularly is confronted with psychotic criminals that outweigh him by 100 pounds and that have all the tattooes, muscles and looks to make you think they would eat him alive. Yet I wouldn't bet money against this guy in a street fight against any thug. I have seen the same thing with martial artists in China who sometimes look like you can blow them over - that is, before they hit you. Frank Bruno once trained with a 130 pound Wing Tsun guy in Hong Kong and afterwards said that in a real fight, he would lose against him.
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Nice! Did WT myself, its difficult but a good martial art.

saul_ir34 · Jan 6, 2011

london2k said: ↑

I am actually a big fan of Wlad, and in particular Vitali. What a nice change to get guys who are not only dominating their sport, but who are well educated, speak multiple languages, can hold a coherent conversation, and are good ambassadors for the sport. Wlad's no all-time great...in my view he is too defensive and stiff now (much more than in the early days if you watch the old videos) to make that claim. But he IS the best out there right now...which in itself is no small accomplishment.

But despite all that, I've always been a little uncomfortable about Wlad, and I just realised why.....

When Tyson.....or guys like Ray Mercer, Michael Dokes a young George Foreman, etc got in a ring.........you got the impression that if not for the padded gloves they were forced to wear.... and the protection of the ref and the Marquis of Queensberry rules, that these guys would have seriously injured their opponents, if not killed them. In other words........in the ring they were forcibly restrained by the rules, and were at their LEAST dangerous.

You just KNEW that they could walk into any bar or prison anywhere, and even the huge, scary tough guys ithere would get killed by the likes of Tyson in a down and dirty street fight. And to be honest, to me that's what you want in a HW champ.. ...a guy who can kick anyone's ass, anywhere, under any circumstances....AND of course, in the ring.

With Wlad....and his worryingly slender body, despite his good muscular development that he gets around fight time.......I just don't get that impression at ALL. In fact, I get the OPPOSITE impression. With Wlad I get the sense that the gloves, ref and Marquis of Queensberry rules make him much MORE of a threat, by keeping things fairly civil. I simply can't see Wlad beating the **** out of some huge biker in a bar, or the hard guys in prison....if they got into a street fight. He wouldn't last a minute in my opinion.

None of this changes the fact that Wlad has develped into the best HW on the planet in the sport of boxing at the moment. But in his case, he is very good at the SPORT of boxing as opposed to being very good at just fighting. I don't see him as a hard ass who could legitimately claim to be "The baddest man on the planet". Not by a mile.
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But let me guess. Haye destroys all???

I would love to see you take a bare fisted punch by Wlad. You would be in a coma for a couple of weeks.

Also who picks fights at a bar with a 6'6" guy who is a solid 250 pounds of muscle. Do you??

marciano22 · Jan 6, 2011

london2k said: ↑

I am actually a big fan of Wlad, and in particular Vitali. What a nice change to get guys who are not only dominating their sport, but who are well educated, speak multiple languages, can hold a coherent conversation, and are good ambassadors for the sport. Wlad's no all-time great...in my view he is too defensive and stiff now (much more than in the early days if you watch the old videos) to make that claim. But he IS the best out there right now...which in itself is no small accomplishment.

But despite all that, I've always been a little uncomfortable about Wlad, and I just realised why.....

When Tyson.....or guys like Ray Mercer, Michael Dokes a young George Foreman, etc got in a ring.........you got the impression that if not for the padded gloves they were forced to wear.... and the protection of the ref and the Marquis of Queensberry rules, that these guys would have seriously injured their opponents, if not killed them. In other words........in the ring they were forcibly restrained by the rules, and were at their LEAST dangerous.

You just KNEW that they could walk into any bar or prison anywhere, and even the huge, scary tough guys ithere would get killed by the likes of Tyson in a down and dirty street fight. And to be honest, to me that's what you want in a HW champ.. ...a guy who can kick anyone's ass, anywhere, under any circumstances....AND of course, in the ring.

With Wlad....and his worryingly slender body, despite his good muscular development that he gets around fight time.......I just don't get that impression at ALL. In fact, I get the OPPOSITE impression. With Wlad I get the sense that the gloves, ref and Marquis of Queensberry rules make him much MORE of a threat, by keeping things fairly civil. I simply can't see Wlad beating the **** out of some huge biker in a bar, or the hard guys in prison....if they got into a street fight. He wouldn't last a minute in my opinion.

None of this changes the fact that Wlad has develped into the best HW on the planet in the sport of boxing at the moment. But in his case, he is very good at the SPORT of boxing as opposed to being very good at just fighting. I don't see him as a hard ass who could legitimately claim to be "The baddest man on the planet". Not by a mile.
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Listen man, I really liked this thread until you actually wrote he wouldn't last a minute with a huge biker. I get the same impression somethimes but in reality he would just slay your typical biker thug. But you are right in one thing, impressions do matter and sell...

Overhill · Jan 6, 2011

Take a look at Wlad's stare downs before the first bell. His opponents look like their stomach is about to turn around. He's way taller, muscular and nastier looking in live than in television.

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