i found out who really won hagler-leonard, now its oscar-tito...once and for all

115-114 DLH
115-113 Hagler

I like Tito better than DLH and Gay Ray better than Hagler, but I didn't score either fight for them.

 

Good scores on them, I agree with you :!:

 

I rewatched Tito/Oscar Saturday night late and came up with 8-4 ODLH. I starred the close rounds (there were several of them) and gave Oscar most of those, so clearly you could legitimately score the fight much differently.

I gave Tito round 4 and then 10-12. I thought No. 2 was very close, and obviously No. 9 was critical. For me, I thought Oscar controlled distance very well in those close rounds and still outlanded Trinidad, leading him around like a puppy. But someone could say Tito pressed the action and came forward, so you could argue it either way.

That round 9 is fascinating. I think if you were going to assemble a series of rounds to score to figure out what "style" of judge you are, that round would have to be included. It's a tipping point for whether you prefer clean, arid boxing or more aggressive posturing and harder shots.

That round reminds me of Taylor/Wright No. 12, and I think a good judge would need to be consistent between those two. (Oscar and Winky obviously being the parallels.) What's also interesting is that both rounds have been assumed for Trinidad and Taylor, respectively, but I think they both are very much in play, with Oscar perhaps having a slightly stronger case than Winky.

 

Oh, and I went 115-113 Leonard, much to my dismay. I've never figured out a way to score that fight for Marvin. He just started too slowly.

 

I had:

Leonard > Hagler (very close)

De la Hoya > Tito

 

Hagler 115-114 Leonard
De La Hoya 116-114 Trinidad

I can live with a close win for Leonard but Trinidad definitely lost the DLH fight in my opinion (sorry Jack...)

 

You are right, we can't change those officials results but for a boxing fan officials sh*t don't matter.

So ? How did you score those fights ? I can see whether you know boxing or not by your scores so please share with us.

 

I definitely agree with you there. Although I scored the fight easily for De La Hoya, he deserved to lose for not fighting like a champion down the stretch.

 

You are right, we can't change those officials results but for a boxing fan officials sh*t don't matter.

So ? How did you score those fights ? I can see whether you know boxing or not by your scores so please share with us.

 

Have you ever disagreed with someone without hurtling juvenile insults in a pathetic attempt to obscure your embarrassing lack of knowledge and/or intelligence?

 

Oh well :yep

 

Same.

 

I'm not even a Hoya fan, but of course you're too obsessed with Oscar to bother reading other threads.

Actually, I don't think you're obsessed with Oscar as much as you are homosexuality. You mention it in every post, and sometimes in very graphic or strange ways, and usually this is a sign that someone has something to hide. Given your obvious attitude issues, it wouldn't surprise me if that's how you are inclined. And I'm not judging, mind you.

So, do you have something you need to get off your chest, Jack -- or should I say, "Jackie."