I found the perfect aide to my sleeping problem, it involves boxing.

Maxmomer · Nov 30, 2007

I'm the exact same way with sleep, I just went to bed at noon and woke up and 11pm. I'll have to look into this.

yesihavearm · Nov 30, 2007

Worse than Skelton vs Sprott ?

enquirer · Nov 30, 2007

Watch carlos de leon v johnny nelson....Makes hagler/hearns look like slo mo spoilers......

Chunk · Nov 30, 2007

Amsterdam said:

Nobody would ever say Calzaghe is more skilled than Mayweather, because realistically nobody in boxing, save for Cristian Mijares, is as skilled as Floyd Mayweather in their respective styles. Calzaghe's also past his best, pretty deep in also, reflexes are nothing like his peak, which that was absurd, he could hit you accurately with a winged shot and you couldn't see it coming.:yep

But you have to take in intangibles and other factors also, Mayweather didn't impress me vs. DLH because he fought overly safe against a past prime opponent who the P4P #1 should have made easy work of and nearly shutout, which I scored it 8-4 and had no issue's with someone scoring it 7-5.

And I don't really rate DLH as an ATG, he's a seriously flawed fighter and was in his prime and I felt Quartey and Whitaker edged him and this was a prime DLH here, it was no surprise that DLH was going to lose to Mayweather, he was supposed to lose to Mayweather and if Oscar wasn't a good looking guy with the nice guy persona, he'd be rated about where he's at because he'd be less marketable.

Alternatively, it bothers me that Mayweather was so troubled by Castillo, two times, people act like the second fight wasn't competitive, but it was. It's not like Castillo is a great fighter, here's a guy scraping past Stevie Johnston shortly before fighting Mayweather. Castillo was without a doubt a top class fighter, with very good qualities, but also very beatable and not the type that would trouble a guy like Floyd thinks he is. You have to remember Whitaker handling Chavez, who was immensely better than Castillo, Whitaker likely would have won every round over Castillo, yet Floyd claims he's the best ever.

Then further, Floyd's been cherry picking lately, he doesn't want Cotto and the Williams type, he wants easy Hatton. Like I said, if guys like Mijares were natural 140-147's and Floyd had to fight them, he'd either lose or have a damn tough time winning, same with Guzman and others, but Hatton, only acceptable because he's overhyped since day 1.

So I don't like the cherry picking ****, and I don't like his fans in the same way, because they think he's unbeatable when he's clearly not and clearly can be destroyed by an elite level 'technical pressure fighter', such as Cotto in my opinion. Hatton's not technical, he's a mess, so I don't want any responses from anyone calling Hatton 'technical pressure'. Floyd has a lot of proving to do and not because we are concerned that he's not one of the most skilled ever, but because he and his dumb fans and crew claim that he's one of the best ever and I think he's a notch lower than a guy like Pernell Whitaker.

Those are some big shoes to fill.
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i would consider myself to be a PBF fan and i dont consider the best fighter ever,i do however consider him one of the best of my generation(which he is) so dont rub all PBF fans with the same brush we are not all nut-huggers some are genuine boxing fans...

Amsterdam · Nov 30, 2007

Chunk said:

i would consider myself to be a PBF fan and i dont consider the best fighter ever,i do however consider him one of the best of my generation(which he is) so dont rub all PBF fans with the same brush we are not all nut-huggers some are genuine boxing fans...
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He is one of the best of the generation and has the ability to seal himself as the cemented best of the generation, that's not the issue at all. Some of his fans think he's the best of the last 25 years, I can't rate him with Jones and Whitaker, he's not in the realm of those guys as the full package.

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