I had an ominous feeling for Burns tonight

So no credit for taking 7 rounds of punishment without so much as a knockdown? No credit for taking everything Gonzalez had and then upping the pace? I've not heard or seen one burns fan suggest burns punched Gonzalez out. It's your analysis that has has a one sided slant to it, no-one else's

 

Nice try to try and claim you've won the battle, when you clearly haven't. I'm sure that other ***** in here will back you up to make you feel like you have. You've just admitted your bias.

If you actually read what I say, instead of cherry picking little bits, you'll see I've answered all this BS you're coming out with now. I said I'm not making excuses, why do I need to make excuses for Gonzalez? I'm trying to understand what happened, its not as simple as "Burns broke his heart".....

But the group think, Team Burns and Sky want you to believe that and that Ricky destroyed him to make him quit. This is NOTHING like Froch vs. Taylor. Taylor gassed during the last rounds and Froch took the bull by the horns and made it a win. Ricky Burns didnt do that, Ricky Burns was gifted the win between rounds.

Nice one for bringing out the Billy Nelson card again, how unpredictable....not.

I don't think I have ever been critical of Ricky Burns as a fighter, but have been critical of them for not getting on the big fights especially BEING a so called world-class world champion. I have praised Billy Nelson a lot of times, as I have Ricky. But you choose to browse straight over all that don't you dftaylor? Which further proves my point about you, unfortunately. You are not here to debate, you are here to discredit. I said it before, I know how you work, and you know I know that. Everytime I talk boxing, you can bet you will be around to try and discredit and laugh at the points made with your buddies.

I support the sport, not individual fighters. I have no agenda or bias or allegiance unlike many on this forum have and you ****ing know that deep down, but you wont admit it, because you have and want everyone else to aswell and if no one is in that group, you shoot them down. I have no bias, and Ricky Burns got basically outclassed for 7 rounds, Ricky Burns stepped it up a bit in the 8th and the 9th, and Gonzalez pulled out on his own accord.

THAT IS THE REALITY. NOT A MYTH. THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED. END OF.

Ricky won. AND STILL. :hey

Ricky Burns didnt force f*ck all, he may well have done the forcing in the last few rounds, but we'll never know. Will we? Perhaps Gonzalez was afraid of that thought, maybe?

But Burns did not make Gonzalez quit. If you honestly honestly honestly believe that in your heart of hearts, then you either DKSAB or are so far up Ricky Burns's arse your opinion(s) cannot be taken seriously in regards to this fight. This wasn't Junior Witter vs. Devon Alexander, Jermaine Taylor vs. Carl Froch, Devon Alexander vs. Timothy Bradley, Miguel Cotto vs. Antonio Margarito or even Josesito Lopez vs. Victor Ortiz. Ricky Burns did not make Jose Gonzalez quit in any way shape or form. I'll repeat again, to be fair and down the middle, he (Ricky) did step it up the last two rounds, but do you honestly think Gonzalez buckled because of that? Ricky was busy and pressing all fight. Even he admitted that. :huh

What else can you say? Gonzalez got freaked when Burns didnt go over after his massive attack in one of the rounds? Gonzalez couldn't keep up with the pace Ricky was setting?

For most of the fight GONZALEZ WAS SETTING THE PACE.

Come on man, these are professional boxers and athletes. Gonzalez got injured and gave in to it. Gonzalez broke his own heart.

 

When you hit someone with everything you've got and they still stand there and start to fire back that has a mental effect on you when you're used to hitting guys with those shots and they usually go down but Ricky bit down on the gumshiled took everything Jose threw at him and at the end of that little flurry Burns hit Gonzalez with an uppercut inside that had a notable effect you seen it straight away that he was gone and in the 8th and 9th rounds he was slowing down and then at the end of the 9th said "i've had enough."

Well done to you Billy and Ricky last night Ricky is as tough as they come but he's a real gent outside the ring was a pleasure to meet him before the event last night outside the arena.

 

Craney, you can write as many long-winded, nonsensical posts as you want, but the majority on here know your approach to posting. You don't like debating, you just like repeating the same things again and again and then accusing those who disagree as being sheep.

The Billy Nelson point is absolutely relevant, it's not my job to surprise you with new arguments. As someone who goes out of their way, much like Lirva did, to insult the pros who frequent this board, that's a relevant factor. You wear your agenda on your sleeve. That's fine, nothing wrong with it. Just don't insult anyone else's intelligence by suggesting you "tell it like it is".

You previously said that Gonzalez may have quit because he wanted his first title win to be perfect! Because that's how high-performing people in any discipline think. "Well, if it's not perfect who cares about winning!?"

 

:rofl

 

I think it's more simple than that. Ricky didn't break Gonzalez, Gonzalez broke.

And a fighter doesn't get credit for staying with their opponent (unless you listen to Sky). I said it in another thread: Trying to win even when you're losing isn't the 'mark of a champion,' it's the mark of an athlete. It's just what people do, it's nothing special.

Now if Ricky was to come out for a rematch with a new gameplan and win the fight, that would be extremely impressive. But listening to the commentators and Eddie Hearn, it sounds like that's at the top of the Not Happening list

 

Because he lost, obviously. It's called sportsmanship. Did you expect him to quit and then insist he actually won?

 

So why did he quit?

 

Even though he quit, he technically won because he outboxed Ricky for seven rounds. The other five rounds don't matter. In fact, Gonzalez deserves a rematch because he got too tired. Forget turning up in shape and fighting the right fight tactically.

 

I think he quit because 1. his hand was in pain, 2. he was worried about the long-term effects on his career if he kept using it, 3. Burns was coming on strong and there was no way he wouldn't sweep the remaining rounds, 4. he was in the UK and probably thought he was behind anyway, or that the fight was close. (I love British boxing but you guys have notoriously terrible judging/refereeing.)