I Had Carlos Cuadras Beating Roman Gonzalez...

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  1. There Will Be Blood

    There Will Be Blood #TheMedicalTeam #750 banned Full Member

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    Granted, I had been stoned and drinking all day (subsequently leaving a grill that I bought from Target 75% completed), but in my eyes, Cuadras won a close one.

    I think that if Principe had increased his output, he may very well have gotten the KO.
     
  2. ThatsRight11

    ThatsRight11 Active Member Full Member

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    Caudras won the fight, but the hbo commentary was biased as hell! insane really!

    we get it choco is hbo's favored fighter, they want him to be p4p 1 even though he isn't even top 5 and barely top 10

    It's all agenda driven with hbo right now! and Yes caudras for me won the fight by 2 rounds
     
  3. ThatsRight11

    ThatsRight11 Active Member Full Member

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    ledderman making hbo look ridiculous with his biased scoring to
     
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  4. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I've only seen a few rounds of the fight - it looked very close but I had Gonzalez winning the majority of the ones I saw due to landing the cleaner, harder punches, using defence pretty well on the basis of blocking that isn't given enough credit for, also having the edge in ring generalship.
     
  5. EnglishAnt10

    EnglishAnt10 New Member banned Full Member

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    Your that troll on here? an extremely biased lomachenko fan yeh?
     
  6. Gannicus

    Gannicus 2014 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    You're that guy with a severe mental disorder. I haven't come here to discuss boxing with someone I don't rate.
     
  7. EnglishAnt10

    EnglishAnt10 New Member banned Full Member

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    mental disorder? coming from someone who's self proclaimed 2014 poster of the year? haven't you been trolling people for years with your nonsense
     
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  8. OvidsExile

    OvidsExile At a minimum, a huckleberry over your persimmon. Full Member

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    Sober up then score it again. If results do not change, go down to your local boxing gym and have some sense beat into you.
     
  9. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yeah it was real bad last night

    It's time for Harold to close shop
     
  10. cuchulain

    cuchulain Loyal Member Full Member

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    105 - 105 at the end of eleven.

    Scored the last round even, so final score, 115 -115.

    If I had to pick one of them to have edged it, it would be Cuadres.

    Ledderman was ridiculous. Near the end, he stated that Chocolatito had landed the harder, better punches.

    Absolutely not.

    This wasn't a robbery. You could make a case for 115 - 113 in either direction.

    But the 8-4 and 9 -3 scores were frankly ridiculous.
     
  11. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Seeing Roman marked up and Carlos looking fresh at the final bell, I felt the champion had retained, but a tired mind (4:00am) was simply exaggerating the Mexican's success because Roman wasn't dominating like usual. It's a classic response to interpret struggling as losing when you're accustomed to one way traffic.

    A second watch righted this. Compubox points at the key factor - accuracy.

    Many of Cuadras' flurries were blocked (on the arms, shoulders) and then ended with a miss. There were many telling sequences where it looked like Cuadras was dictating but fails get off and is then popped in return. Of the four rounds I deemed very close I gave three to Carlos but still had him the loser, 7-5. The last two he probably took against a tiring Gonzalez who had thrown almost 1000 punches.

    You could say he didn't do quite enough to rip the title away, but then it's not like he was cruising in the final round. Great fight.

    Roman's status as the pound-for-pound king is further solidified.
     
  12. ThatsRight11

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    cuadras beat roman no question a lot of people calling it a robbery, especially with the fixed cards and extremely biased commentating from hbo

    7-5 caudras, you need to seriously re think your status as a legit boxing fan if you consider gonzalez p4p even top 7 p4p is stretching it, rigondeaux would starch him at 118
     
  13. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Cuadras deserves the rematch. I think Chocolatito edged it by a point, but his face got a royal butt whipping by the Prince who lost the fight by running too much. A draw would be fair, unanimous decision was ridiculous. Cuadras has what it takes to beat Chocolatito and The Monster.
     
  14. Estes

    Estes Active Member Full Member

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    The scores might be ridiculous but if you had Gonzalez winning, why is it ridiculous for three other people to have Gonzalez winning?
     
  15. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Which seven people in boxing right now have a better resume than Gonzalez?

    Why Bring up Rigo? Gonzalez has fought in four weight divisins and has just won a title in the division that is two below the division that Rigo has fought in all of his professional career.