i hate bodybuilders!!!

Everyone is an expert and most people have a real inferiority complex about anything they are not TRULY sure about.

I started out boxing as a kid. I noxed some while in the Marines but never really went anywhere with it. I got out of the service and got into bodybuilding and power lifting and learned a lot about how a body makes strength and how gain explosive power. I started off 6'3" 180 lbs and I have been as heavy as 250 squating 450 for 10 and dl 550 for a single.

Now, coming back into boxing I realize that I need to work on my stamina and conditioning but I would never ever give up any of my weightlifting. Its different where now I will focuss on just the big 3 (mostly) in a low rep range to keep my explosive strength and I will condtion myself with high rep body weight movements and plyo..etc


My point to all this, I have been involved in both cultures and its always the same. Boxers think bb are ***s muscle heads think everyone else is weak and trains like ****. But if you were to consider the idea there is ideas you can take from everything you come in contact with. Keep an open mind and have compassion if they are ****ing idiots...just my .02

OK carry on

 

interesting. I am a bit suprised. after seeing your somewhat blurry pullup video I thought perhaps we might be somewhat equivalent in strength (I'm about 128 pounds, 5'8''), but my max bench is 255 and my warm up set usually twenty pounds over my bodyweight.

I can't tell how much you were moving and putting momentum into the pullups, here is my body weight exercise video (one armed pushups, pullups, etc) and it seems my pullups are often criticized for form and range of motion, but at the same time they are copious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNVQ0yFnE9o

 

You should listen to them ********. They know what they're talking about. Snatches are ****ing useless idiot. Do bicep curls instead.

 

Live and let live.

 

It seems like almost every you tube vid I click on for boxing has rocky music going..lol Great form bro

 

every bodubuilder i know is sound. being one sure beats being a fat lazy ******* who never goes to the gym

 

whatever music is on the video was playing at the gym at the time I recorded it. But yes, they play Rocky music at the boxing gym too much, I agree. I don't even know what some of that music is in the later exercises.

Yes, I normally weigh 128 pounds, but occasionally I am as heavy as 131, 5'8''.

Thin hips and lower back, small thighs - not very much mass in the long center of my build, more mass at the extremities like the calves and arms.

Being somewhat large but light runs in my family - my father was about 5'7'' and at 145 lbs had 18 inch arms, benching at his best 360 in his early forties. I inherited a skeletal condition called osteopoikylosis from him which I think might contribute to our unnaturally light weight.

 

Most bodybuilders I've ran in to train for size and bulk, and have no use whatsoever for anything like the Olympic lifts because they don't build superficial muscles like isometric stuff does.

Thing is, it's the P4P strength and explosiveness most fighters are looking for so things like hang snatch, power clean, etc. are much more useful than isometric stuff like biceps curls. Now, there's nothing wrong with curls (or other isometric lifts)- I just don't think they should be the focal point of a workout for a fighter.

Since it sounds like you're into some of the more exotic stuff, do you ever do any overhead squats? Those will really work your back out, and are a great exercise for balance, too.

 

bicep curls arent isometric lifts.

 

Relentless... Why the single leg stiff DL over a conventional stiff legged DL?

Also, to the guy who says BB don't know anything about O lifts, go to hell. Tons of Body builders started off as O lifters/Power lifters, and tons of other places. Don't think that hypertrophy is the only thing they know how to achieve.

 

Tell them to go **** themselfs and use your superior boxing skills agaist them.

 

May be true, but they know that from doing it, not from being body builders, so it would make more sense to talk to an Oly lifter or PL instead. But again, a strength coach or a trainer who has experience with boxers or wrestlers or MMA fighters is your best bet.