Yeah the 8 division thing is bull****. International and unknown alphabet titles? In that case, Adamek is a HW champ, and Roy Jones was a 50-time world champion.
Go ahead....Put a list of circumstancial evidence against Pac. Nuthuggers are very blind. While every fighter moving up in weight lhas a decrease in their KO %, Pac has had an increase. From 60% to 80%. His Cranium has gotten bigger. He looks as fresh if not fresher in the latter rounds that when he was younger. He avoids random drug tests like they are the plague.
They are indeed, I cant prove he is on the juice but sh*t. If it looks like a duck and sounds like a duck....
Fair enough mate. Solid post. You favour aesthetics over raw effectiveness I feel. Nowt wrong in that though. I do also sometimes.
Sound :good (though I'd happily listen to Roach slurping his soup of an evening, I love the guy, think he's one of the best and smartest guys in boxing, JMO)
This is a really, really dumb post. It boggles the mind how you can write so genuinely and so powerfully about a warrior like Chavez, then write such mind-numbingly idiotic bull**** about a warrior like Pacquiao. I guess you're just another General Forum gimp who only likes fighters of one nationality. Shame. Pac's KO ratio is higher above 130 now, but he has only had a handful of fights there. If he had 40-45 fights there, his KO ratio would tail off, obviously. And remember - Oscar quit, the ref decided when the Cotto fight was over, and he failed to stop Clottey. The only clean KOs have been Hatton and Diaz. So that's two out of five, or an actual KO ratio of 40%, not 80%. That the Oscar and Cotto fights were stopped were not a direct result of Pac's enhanced punching power leaving them to be counted out, it was his all-round game that forced a stoppage. His cranium has gotten bigger - ridiculous. Have you felt, massaged, and weighed his head??! Sober the **** up. I think you've had one too many cervezas gringo. :dead He looks fresher now in the later rounds - this is ABSOLUTE BULL****!!!! In the 1st Morales fight, Pac's stamina was insane. He had been involved in a real 50-50 back-and-forth war, had taken a lot of punishment, and was cut, and still roared forward in the last round and gave Morales a pounding - that fight was the best example of stamina in a 12 round fight I've ever seen. Fighting like that in the last round is a hell of a lot harder than fighting like that in the last round after a far easier fight vs a punchbag like Joshua Clottey. And if you look at Pac in the 11th round vs Barrera in '03, he looks far more energetic and aggressive than he did in the 11th vs Cotto. Pac's stamina was insane then, it still is now, but I'd say he was fresher then as shown in Morales 1 and Barrera 1, which is only natural considering his age then and now.
I didn't say he was an 8 division champ. I said "8 divisions later", and there are 8 divisions between fly (where he won his 1st world title) and welter (where he won his most recent world title). Count them.
Sure is! And to gain all of that weight without putting on an ounce of body fat. It is... almost enough to make a fighter ask for drug testing! :deal When Pac beats a random drug test then he will get respect. Until then? He is just another drug cheat.
I haven't seen any evidence yet that you aren't a BSE-ridden cow. Therefore, you are just another BSE-ridden cow. :deal
Are you honestly saying that his head is not bigger??? Follow him in person for a day you can actually find dust, empty cans and some newborns in orbit around that head.
This is just too pathetic to answer. Yes, his head is growing faster than the speed of sound. Why bother with drug-testing at all? Let's just ban him now because of his gigantic steroid-swollen melon head. That's all the evidence you and I need, isn't it?
Until he failed a drug test then you can call him a cheater. Bottom line is your boy is so scared to fight pacquiao that he ask for a drug testing that he never ask his 40 previous opponents to do. :hi:
If you put $25-40 million USD on it I would be more than happy to submit to ANY type testing you would require. You are a *******. The fact that an allegedly clean fighter wouldn't take drug tests for the payday of his life is circumstantial evidence enough to throw this guy's legacy in the can. The purse is the prize in prize fighting. If you are walking away from mega purses something must be seriously wrong. If it looks like a duck. Quacks like a duck. It is probably a duck. ... and you are a gullible *******.
Sorry VB. There is more than enough circumstantial evidence to conclude Manny is a cheat. Scared? Please. Also, Manny knew going in that random drug testing was going to be asked for. He just thought he could weasel out of it. When he saw he couldn't he RAN! Manny RAN from Mosley too and took the easy fight. Pac is a cheat. Face the truth.