I have created my top 10 p4p

You are some sort of knob

Making a thread about race and requesting caps on colour

Next level trouble maker

 

You need your head checked if you focus on race this much.

 

Let's not forget Chinese and Indian boxers. There are over 2 billion Chinese and Indian people, how does he dare not include at least a few those? Also one slot (preferably top 5) should be reserved for aliens incase they decide to visit earth in future, because you know otherwise it would be racist.

 

tidy

 

Xu Can.

 

That's just box ticking & quota pandering. The best fighters are who they are. They ain't picked on heritage. That is stupid. Skill, sidelining the weight bullies & overall accomplishment are what really matters here, not ethnicity. Meritocracy... you do have my sympathy in regards to what's going on in Australia though, I'd actually put more effort into opposing that if I were you… Because like in every country you do know they are lying to you don't you? It is bull****.. they have no right to control you in this manner. Stand up to it..

 

Awful. Crawford is a weight bully who fights inactive fighters, some of whom are greatly diminished. That ain't 'p4p'. Walking round at 180lbs & fighting at 140/47 is actually a joke! I thought part of the whole idea of pound for pound was to go up not down LOL

 

The only glaring issue that jumped off the screen at me is Beterbiev at number two. Beyond that, I mean, one list as subjectively matter-of-personal-taste as the next.

...hell, BoxRec has BooBoo freaking Andrade #9 on their computerized-rankings generated list, is there anyone (Beterbiev aside) on tinman's list whose inclusion you can really say is less merited than Andrade's?

Besides, anyone featuring on tinman's list but not Boxrec's is somewhere in the 11-20 range on theirs...and probably on the bubble of making Ring's, TBRB's, or any fan's. What you have at pretty much any given time is a rough idea who the forty or so best in the world are, usually the champs and top contenders of each division, and then from there slotting them into a numerical hierarchy is sort of a masturbatory exercise in playing favorites and not an exact science...unless there's a handful (usually not as many as ten, more like 3-5) standing clearly head & shoulders above the rest. ie when Mayweather and Pacquiao were the undisputed two best, and then from spots 3 on down kind of didn't really matter, as long as you were talking about guys that were consensus top 15ish, (or pushing it, maybe 30ish) all kind of interchangeable.

 

Imagine if same day weigh ins & all year round weight limitations were the norm… a lot of resumes would look very different I suspect

 

Beterbiev is way too high. Taylor, Gonzales, Alvarez, Charlo, Sor Rungvisai all have accomlished way more. Other than that, good list.

 

That and his record is trash, for the most part. Not entirely his fault, of course, as he is among the most ducked fighters in recent memory and he missed out making some big money and securing his legacy with era-defining clashes with the other best light heavies around (Gvozdyk aside...looking at the Beast's comrade Russkies like Kov and Bivol..and before that, Storm, Superman, and SOG...plus, virtually all his yellow-bellied would-be mandatories at one point all collectively said "thanks but no thanks") - but the fact is, subtract the Nail and maybe Hot Rod (although big asterisk there as he was three full years removed from his last meaningful bout, including two years of complete inactivity, with contemplation of walking away from the sport altogether following a dispiriting robbery in the interim), and oof, that's a whole big pile of mediocrity Beterbiev has been smashing up. You've got washed up Campillo and Cloud, and hyped up UK banger Callum Johnson as his secondary line of victories after Gzovdyk & Kalajdzic - and then...? Is anybody in ten years going to remember who the hell Adam Deines, Enrico Koelling, Isidro Prieto, Ezequiel Maderna, or Alexander Johnson were? That's more than half of his title defenses, all *insert whoopie cushion noise*.

(ok, maybe diehards will remember Maderna's name, just because he fought so many big names internationally - but he lost to literally all of them! Chudinov, Ooze Cat, La Bomba, Oosthuizen, and Beterbiev - not one single important road victory. He's a very good fighter by the measure of the Argie domestic scene, but just doesn't stack up at the global level).